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  Russia to liquidate Jehovah's Witnesses' organization

  by processor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://starconnectmedia.com/2017/01/19/russia-gets-go-ahead-to-liquidate-jehovahs-witnesses-organisation/.

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  Hundreds

  WT claims around 223 -to be exact.
  
  
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  NY Daily News: Gov. Cuomo unveils plan for Child Victims Act that would do away with statute of limitation

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/cuomo-unveils-plan-child-victims-act-article-1.2943920.

  cuomo unveils plan for child victims act that would do away with statute of limitation .

  cuomo wants to get rid of statute of limitation for child victims.

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  I wonder if it will only apply to individuals and religions or to government employees and government agencies also.
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  Russia to liquidate Jehovah's Witnesses' organization

  by processor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://starconnectmedia.com/2017/01/19/russia-gets-go-ahead-to-liquidate-jehovahs-witnesses-organisation/.

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  Winning hundreds of cases in 2016 alone in the ECHR ! --the WT will also win this case; If Russia will follow the ruling and what they will do remains to be seen.
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  How do JW's determine a person is anointed?

  by thinker11 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've always wondered about this.

  when a person believes they made a spiritual connection with god and proclaims themselves as anointed, how do they determine whether this person is anointed or not.

  does a group of elders look at the person's spiritual resume and check off the person's pioneer stats, bible knowledge, attendance, work ethic, personality, etc and then believe in the person if they have a good track record?

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  "Clear convincing evidence" -Proof from God!
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  Moving to warwick: 1 Billion dollars in profits so far.

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  at one point, the witnesses held 4.5 million square feet over 30 buildings.

  they’re down to nine buildings, having made about $1.25 billion on staggered sales since 2004, according to the co.. http://therealdeal.com/2016/09/22/the-secret-to-jehovahs-witnesses-real-estate-success-maintenance-and-patience/.

  warwick is 1.6 million square-foot.

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  About the structural integrity of the buildings that are going up in Kings county, in case of earthquake run away from these buildings made with cement instead of steel beams. The bridge with the Polish name is also being built with cement or concrete except for the steel cables holding up the roadway. I suppose it is much cheaper and the builders aren't banking on or expecting any disasters to theses structures.
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  Moving to warwick: 1 Billion dollars in profits so far.

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  at one point, the witnesses held 4.5 million square feet over 30 buildings.

  they’re down to nine buildings, having made about $1.25 billion on staggered sales since 2004, according to the co.. http://therealdeal.com/2016/09/22/the-secret-to-jehovahs-witnesses-real-estate-success-maintenance-and-patience/.

  warwick is 1.6 million square-foot.

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  I did not want to start a new thread on this, but has anyone been to NYC lately? -Buildings are going up everywhere! And I mean high rise buildings and hotels EVERYWHERE! and especially in Kings county in the downtown Brooklyn area. WT move corresponds with and fits in nicely with all the construction. And by the way, the factory buildings by the BB are occupied already by commercial tenants. The area is starting to take the form of a commercial area with stores and shops with glass storefronts and signs and neon lights on the street level floors where the WT factories used to be. It is a different world!
  
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  Moscow City Court JW Restriction Verdict Today - 16-Jan-2017

  by Da.Furious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on jw.org this is the first paragraph on the 12 january news on russia:.

  on january 16, 2017, jehovah’s witnesses in russia will again seek to counter the decade-long tightening of restrictions on their religious freedom.

  they will ask the moscow city court to rule that a warning against their national headquarters be rescinded as unlawful and unfounded.

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  I don't see the fairness in Russian gov. choosing ROC ( and allowing them to exist and influence people ) over WTS and other religions that said gov. does not like because ROC uses political bed-fellows to eliminate the competition.

  Seems to me that WT can't loose. If Russian gov. succeeds in shutting down the WT and the other churches that compete with ROC, the move will have an extremely powerful negative impact on Russia and eventually on ROC; the rest of the modern world is looking and may correspondigly act upon Russia accordingly.

  With a new gov. pending in America that favors trade with Russia, and Russia looking forward to thi$, WT cannot loose. Although the Russian gov has made it law that Russian Constitution trumps over European Court of Human Rights if WT wins in that Court if it has to go that far ( and WT can't loose ) it will ultimately be more politically and economically advantageous for Russia to allow the WT to exist in Russia than to go against the ECHR. But even if Russia, against all reason, insisted and managed to shut down WT in Russia temporarily, my bet is that it would just be only a matter of time before WT is up an running again in the "USSR."
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  Blood Ban Not Going Away Anytime Soon

  by baldeagle in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  at the recent circuit assembly in our area (nov 19/2016) a talk was given in the afternoon entitled “jehovah will resurrect the dead” it’s clear that the prohibition on blood is not going away anytime soon.

  many of us here have expressed the hope that this death dealing policy would be softened or become a complete conscience matter.

  not the case, jw’s are urged to not give in and to focus on the resurrection hope.

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  organization has given written guidance to JW's working in hospitals, med-labs and other occupations that involve the use and handling of blood that clearly contradict the idea that any action done would be prohibited.

  Mishnaic law teaches that a servant's hand is an extension of his master's, and a JW doing his job can do his assigned job for his employer, ask for another job, or quit; if he was in control of the situation he must act accordingly: like if it involved stealing or participating in christmas. I am sure you are aware that JW doctors can administer blood to non JW. So, in the case of handling blood for an employer, he is acting in an extensional capacity.
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  Blood Ban Not Going Away Anytime Soon

  by baldeagle in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  at the recent circuit assembly in our area (nov 19/2016) a talk was given in the afternoon entitled “jehovah will resurrect the dead” it’s clear that the prohibition on blood is not going away anytime soon.

  many of us here have expressed the hope that this death dealing policy would be softened or become a complete conscience matter.

  not the case, jw’s are urged to not give in and to focus on the resurrection hope.

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  The NWT in not dishonest when it conveys the interpretation: not only eating blood which is at the very least what the author meant, but also all other acts connected to blood : all unauthorized use of blood. Including blood transfusions which is a WT interpretation of what eating can also mean in addition to consuming blood orally.

  But because the author does not state clearly and distinctly what that action is connected to blood, the reader must conclude for himself. Perhaps the author wants the reader to conclude that it is a Biblical axiom that any unauthorized use of blood is prohibited and that is why he left out the verb. (But that would also include using blood for scientific research, antivenom, vaccines and derivative use.) One thing for sure, not eating blood is enjoined.
  
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  Blood Ban Not Going Away Anytime Soon

  by baldeagle in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  at the recent circuit assembly in our area (nov 19/2016) a talk was given in the afternoon entitled “jehovah will resurrect the dead” it’s clear that the prohibition on blood is not going away anytime soon.

  many of us here have expressed the hope that this death dealing policy would be softened or become a complete conscience matter.

  not the case, jw’s are urged to not give in and to focus on the resurrection hope.

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  Fisherman

  "In reading the command to "abstain...from blood" it is clear that something is missing: a verb. The Decree does not come right out and say, "abstain from drinking or eating blood." Yet a verb of some kind is needed to complete the thought.

  TD thank you for your gracious reply to my question.

  'Twas in 1990 at the Pure Language convention that wt discussed the verb or act (any action done) connected to 'abstain' in the related verse in Acts penned by legerdemain, cool hand... Luke, the beloved physician and author of said book. Funny that today doctors use the same figure of speech.