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  Poll - Will you accept blood?

  by OrphanCrow in

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  i have made a poll to try to determine the impact of the wt's no blood policy on ex members.. if you are an exjw, please participate.. vote here:.

  *oops...hang on here...i have to make a new poll...this one lets you vote more than once.

  i will post the new one .

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  https://www.google.com/amp/www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-jehovahs-witnesses-are-changing-medicine/amp
  
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  I totally agree with this video about Islam

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1182232715152916/?hc_ref=newsfeedcan islam be reformed though?could it, for example, be accepted eventually that only the quran, and only the nice parts of it, need to be followed?how did judaism - the non- orthodox kind - become one of the most progressive and open of religions, considering their holy text is so violent?maybe that should be studied?.

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  The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving

  Fin, if you are saying that the Islamic faith text does not ouright say, or suggest to commit violence but is subject to interpretation then it is not the faith but personal interpretation.
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  I totally agree with this video about Islam

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1182232715152916/?hc_ref=newsfeedcan islam be reformed though?could it, for example, be accepted eventually that only the quran, and only the nice parts of it, need to be followed?how did judaism - the non- orthodox kind - become one of the most progressive and open of religions, considering their holy text is so violent?maybe that should be studied?.

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  This whole "well a Christian guy once bombed somewhere 40 years ago so therefore same as ISIS" stuff is getting old and no one buys it as a legitimate argument anymore.

  That is correct. The Christian text does not inspire violence but fanatics can come frome anywhere even from the Christians. Unless anyone can defend to the contrary, Islamic text does inspire violence; and a Christian nut case does not justify violent behaviour in the Islamic religion towards everybody else.

  I am neutral to politics, I am just looking at things from what seems to be practical from the position of not having a bridge blown up under me or going shopping and a terrorist blowing up the place and me with it, or a dirty bomb, and the inconvenience and exoense I have to put up with everywhere for the sake of national security when the common denominator is Islam and not everybody else. Everyone should be able to have the freedom to believe whatever they like but if such beliefs means violence towards everyone or anyone then that should be a disqualification for being recognized as a religion. And it is an outrage to pay for national security billions of dollars to protect religious beliefs that inspire threats to national security.

  The woman in the video did not abandon Islam she wants to reform it. We don't know her true motives but what I have seeing in the news including the case of OBL, are islamic individuals put in a position of trust or trusted and then acting treacherously in the name if Islam. I don't want to wind up dead ot maimed protecting the religion that is responsible for harming me. Again, Everyone should be free to believe but I dont want anyone being taught to believe to cause me harm with violent acts.
  
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  I totally agree with this video about Islam

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1182232715152916/?hc_ref=newsfeedcan islam be reformed though?could it, for example, be accepted eventually that only the quran, and only the nice parts of it, need to be followed?how did judaism - the non- orthodox kind - become one of the most progressive and open of religions, considering their holy text is so violent?maybe that should be studied?.

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  But it is also fair to say that non-Islamic religions although not causing violence directly, they endorse it or cause it indirectly.
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  I totally agree with this video about Islam

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1182232715152916/?hc_ref=newsfeedcan islam be reformed though?could it, for example, be accepted eventually that only the quran, and only the nice parts of it, need to be followed?how did judaism - the non- orthodox kind - become one of the most progressive and open of religions, considering their holy text is so violent?maybe that should be studied?.

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  Islam is also a political religion because Islamic government enforces Islamic laws. Jews are waiting for the Messiah to take "political" action while Islamic movements are seeking to take political action to cause change and that requires violence. The only way I see Islamics reform is if they become westernized and become less observant and see Islam in other term for practical reasons and figure that they do not need religion to control their lives, like in western countries. But that would need some catalyst.
  
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  I totally agree with this video about Islam

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1182232715152916/?hc_ref=newsfeedcan islam be reformed though?could it, for example, be accepted eventually that only the quran, and only the nice parts of it, need to be followed?how did judaism - the non- orthodox kind - become one of the most progressive and open of religions, considering their holy text is so violent?maybe that should be studied?.

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  How did Judaism - the non- orthodox kind - become one of the most progressive and open of religions, considering their holy text is so violent?

  There is a textual basis for non-violence in both orthodox and non-orthodox religions. The Old Testament is not the only book Jews use, both Jewish movements use other books that interpret the OT in terms of non-violence In Islam however, there is the Koran and Hadith and violence is integrated into the religion (the more observant, the more violent) in our modern world. There are 1.6 billion Muslims There is no rank and file in Islam .How do you get all those people to reform? I can't see it being done from within in the modern world .
  
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  Poll - Will you accept blood?

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have made a poll to try to determine the impact of the wt's no blood policy on ex members.. if you are an exjw, please participate.. vote here:.

  *oops...hang on here...i have to make a new poll...this one lets you vote more than once.

  i will post the new one .

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  dub, I am not required to reply. I can only listen if I want.
  
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  Poll - Will you accept blood?

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have made a poll to try to determine the impact of the wt's no blood policy on ex members.. if you are an exjw, please participate.. vote here:.

  *oops...hang on here...i have to make a new poll...this one lets you vote more than once.

  i will post the new one .

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  If you bothered to read the thread rather than to take up for your dub buddy you'd see that I've already been active on this topic, certainly more than you. Nice try though.

  I did read his post. OC replied to it after my post.I am just saying that instead of making remarks about someone, anyone, debunk what that person is saying. Making offensive remark about him or his post do not invalidate what he says. That is it. And whether or not it is true that we are JW or JW buddies has no relevance with the subject matter being discussed. I am interested in facts. Let me make up my own mind.Facts are clear, they have no color.

  Please lets get back to the topic.
  
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  Poll - Will you accept blood?

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have made a poll to try to determine the impact of the wt's no blood policy on ex members.. if you are an exjw, please participate.. vote here:.

  *oops...hang on here...i have to make a new poll...this one lets you vote more than once.

  i will post the new one .

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  Dub, aside from your remarks about RO, can you reply to his post or to the Topic?
  
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  Day 2 - Fessler vs. Watchtower – Thomas Jefferson Jr takes the stand in Jehovah’s Witness Child Abuse Trial

  by darkspilver in

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  day two (wednesday 8 february 2017).

  see also posts and threads regarding: pre-trial / day one / day one update / day five (last day, settlement).

  jefferson: not totally.. zeff: okay.

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  Koncept you have posted a lot of colorful commentary but no legislation showing that WT is not complying with child abuse reporting laws. You have said that wt is not acting morally -but you have shown no facts, only colorful commentary.