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  Paradise? Was it?

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  paradisewas it really paradise to be in paradise?adam and eve never were held by a mother, never cuddled and sung to with a lullaby nor nursed or coddled with tenderness or any human familial embrace.

  the first humans (adam and eve) never learned to toddle surrounded by brothers, sisters, aunts and uncles and grandparents cheering them on.

  the entire experience of childhood was excised surgically like a trauma patient awakening from an accident with amnesia.adam and eve were never in a neighborhood with other kids forming friendship bonds for life and exchanging dreams and hopes for a future they were building in their community.

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  Terry, what you said happened to you in prison is an outrage. However, many faithful servants of God as yourself, suffered at the hands of wicked men, from Abel to Zechariah and after that. Take Isaiah who was beheaded by King Mannaseh, Job, Jesus, Peter, Paul, brother in Hermany who was beheaded, brother King who was jailed and tortured for 40 years in a Chinese jail, JW who get injured while in fs....

  I went up to a blind man one time and asked him how he felt about God -him being blind and all- I expected that he would be angry or say that God did not exist but instead he said: " Oh, no, no, no, God helps me."
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  U.K. NHS Attitude to Blood Transfusion and its Safety

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  while visiting someone at the local hospital i saw this leaflet " will i need a blood transfusion ?

  - patient information" .

  now i was raised in the belief that doctors are transfusion-happy and just give you one willy nilly if they operate , further that a trans.

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  There is no logical reason for the Watchtower's convoluted policy beyond it being an "organizational policy".

  There is a Biblical basis that must be considered, and to JW, WT says what the Bible says - not you.

  
  
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  Does Morality Exist?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some people believe that stealing, lying and killing, is not moral.

  some people don't.. does morality exist?

  if so, prove it..

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  TD: There is no distinction in the taste of a banana whether someone gave one to you as a gift or not -if taste is all that matters.

  The concern we feel for others, whether it is a gift from God or a device that evolved, produces the same results -well-being.
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  Does Morality Exist?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some people believe that stealing, lying and killing, is not moral.

  some people don't.. does morality exist?

  if so, prove it..

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  At the end of the day, is the distinction really that important? TD

  If that is all that matters.

  Is it important that wolves feel concern as they cooperate during the hunt as long as they all enjoy the food and survive as a species?

  Does it matter at the end of the day whether or not the sun feels right or wrong as long as it does what it is supposed to do?

  Does it matter whether you are the sun, a wolf or a human.

  Does it matter whether you exist or not?

  It is important to an individual not feel pain. It is important to an individual to feel satisfaction. That is what is important to each person.

  If the human species did not exist, would morality and things like justice exist?


  Is it important to a person whether or not the world exists after the person is dead?

  
  
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  U.K. NHS Attitude to Blood Transfusion and its Safety

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  while visiting someone at the local hospital i saw this leaflet " will i need a blood transfusion ?

  - patient information" .

  now i was raised in the belief that doctors are transfusion-happy and just give you one willy nilly if they operate , further that a trans.

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  Ws cite selected reports that caution against blood transfusions and then say, but 'that's not the reason we refuse them', when challenged on the citation or other research about the safety of BT.

  Because it is not. Even if it was possible to sterilize blood and offer it to JW, JW would still not be able to accept.

  Safe or infected, it's all the same to JW. Prior to the AIDS epidemic, blood was deemed to be safe too, in fact, that is why it was used to transfuse people with it. There is good reason to believe that blood is safe too at this time based upon belief in the statistics,and reasons given and there is no reason to doubt the evidence given. On the other hand, a person that received a BT is not out of the woods yet. He just does not know if the blood that was given to him was safe.Only time will tell. In the meantime, a lot of people worry and do not have peace of mind.
  
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  Who is the "faithful and discreet slave"? & JW class system

  by Counter-Watchtower in

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  ive asked my jw friends that 3 times and never got an answer.. and can someone explain the jw class system?

  and or point me to info on it..

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  Jesus asked the same question.

  LOL
  
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  2017 Annual Meeting

  by Jules Saturn in

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  this just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.

  1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.

  6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.

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  @ Listener: Informative post!
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  2017 Annual Meeting

  by Jules Saturn in

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  this just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.

  1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.

  6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.

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  No new content will be added to the following features

  That doesn't mean they necessarily will cut down on producing other digital publications.

  Also, regarding the YB, not because of cutbacks but because it is no longer needed, same info will be published on the jw site without having to plubish a special book which would be redundant and a waste of time.
  
  
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  The Watchtower's Real Crisis

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when discussing the watchtowers financial problems, i've generally been of the opinion that they probably are not in a real financial crisis.

  i've come to believe that money may be something of an issue, but its wrapped up in a much larger problem.

  this came to me this morning when reading about the annual meeting.. i think the society's leadership is just plain out of ideas.

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  belief in the organisation's invincibility - despite all evidence to the contrary.

  SBF, I posted about this some threads back. JW are conviced that wt is invincible subject to their religious faith, not based on the reality of Pharaoh's advancing army, but that's not what we are talking about, at least not me, in the related threads on the topics you started that continues to be a relevant subject on this thread. A lot of unsubstantiated views have been posted by posters about their feelings about wt invincibility which can be likened to JW faith of wt invincibility. But that's not what we are talking about here : " I feel wt is going to do this." The evidence shows a financial crisis and the doctrine of crying wolf for 103 years. That's the evidence. How much longer can wt continue to cry wolf with nothing happening after 103 years! And what's the business model, as you mention, for making money to pay the bills and fund the movement besides the donation boxes? Selling off assets and cutting expenses is not a business model. We can divert the topic into a religious discussion as some posters are saying that they feel wt next move is but with no evidence to show challenging yours. Evidence shows the hounds are at the door.
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  The Watchtower's Real Crisis

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when discussing the watchtowers financial problems, i've generally been of the opinion that they probably are not in a real financial crisis.

  i've come to believe that money may be something of an issue, but its wrapped up in a much larger problem.

  this came to me this morning when reading about the annual meeting.. i think the society's leadership is just plain out of ideas.

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  An engine can't run on ideas, it needs money to burn no matter how many ideas. Money is the real "crisis."

  Pubs around the world don't have money to burn to finance printing and personnel in an endless campaign, and don't want to gear up for another century or two of urgent preaching.