Dang. The tenacity of this guy
Thank you Jal! It’s been a long time since you and I have communicated on this board. Always enjoyed.
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TD,
I enjoy your posts.
I already stated that WT fills out the Rev book crossword puzzle in pencil—along with other interpretations of the Bible.
Also, in a previous post I stated that WT does not define the identity of Babylon the Great in the “Insight” book article about the topic but explains why it is not Rome or a political entity. WT suggest in the article that the subject is religious. The Bible does not identify Babylon the Great but Rev says that it is a mystery but the book of Rev also gives clues about her identity wanting that the reader come to his own conclusion. WT has concluded in the past that Babylon the Great is “the world empire of false religion.” —That belief isn’t wild mish mash it makes sense, it lines up with scripture and at the very least is plausible.
IF Jesus truly was who he claimed he was it was not arrogance for him to speak of himself as the bread of life that came down from heaven and that Messianic prophecies applied to him. However, so it seemed and that is why the Pharisees told Jesus to rebuke his disciples when they extolled him as the Messiah.
WT methodology is not faulty because WT uses scripture to interpret scripture; that is the algorithm WT uses.
”I am coming quickly.” Those Christians were in expectation of Jesus’s return same as the ancient people that God made promises to looked forward to their reward. So those persecuted Christians at the time Rev was written were practically encouraged because the book of Rev helped convince them of the certainty of their reward. But they all died and the realization of what Rev says did not happen at that time. Therefore, the book of Rev is about the future same as the promises written in the “ old testament “ as I also pointed out that the Millenium rule, final test, the resurrection of the dead, etc. is prophecy about the future.
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faulty results.
TD, Thanks for your response.
Need to solve the crossword puzzle in pencil. You pointed out mistaken wt conclusions but I don’t think the methodology is faulty because it uses only scripture to solve the puzzle.
Rev is not simply history and instruction. It is about relief from human suffering and ultimate justice.
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Are badness, disobedience, and rebellion part of the "perfect" human nature?
by psyco inwhen humankind will be perfect again after 1,000 years living in a paradise without being influenced by satan and demons, since "the number of these is as the sand of the sea" (revelation 20:8), a huge amount of "perfect" people, like adam and eve, will be bad, disobedient, and rebel being misled by satan once again.. does this mean that after living today surrounded by bad, disobedient, and rebel imperfect people, you will still live surrounded by bad, disobedient and rebel "perfect" people in a paradise?.
does this mean that badness, disobedience, and rebellion are part of the "perfect" human nature considering the big amount of people involved ("as the sand of the sea")?.
is it possible that we were originally created with such a strong desire and tendency to badness, disobedience, and rebellion as a result of a wise, loving, and perfect project?.
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disobedient, and rebel people who prefer dying instead of living after 1,000 years spent in perfect and paradisiac conditions.
Hard to understand doesn’t seem it is a person’s fault to be that way. Who would want to do that? But that is the nature of having free will and that is the nature of reality. And there is nothing one can do about it. If you break the law, you die. Two plus two does not equal five. The problem is how can a perfect person choose wrong unless something is wrong with him to begin with.
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TD,
Interestingly, the insight book does not identify BTG the as World Empire of False Religion, it only suggests that it may be a religious entity. But the point here is that the destruction of BTG remains to be seen in the future. It didn’t happen already. Also, wt incorrect interpretations of prophecy doesn’t disprove prophecy.
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egocentric approach to interpretation leads.
TD,
How does that establish that Rome is the Rev HOB or debunk WT interpretation that it is WEFR?
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So does Star Trek. It's still not actually a prophecy about the future.
The subject does not argue the inspired validity of Rev but only that the related verses are fulfilled in the future.
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because it made sense to the people at the time
But the Bible writers did not write their thoughts according to the premise that the Bible is inspired so they didn’t have to understand what they wrote or could have been mistaken about what they intended to mean. So, in-spite of their beliefs at the time as to the identity of Babylon the Great juxtaposition the mistaken beliefs about the significance of the “disgusting thing that causes desolation” which Jesus clarified later on, the prophetic identity of Babylon the Great may not be Rome. And of course, there is an argument explaining that.
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No. Revelation was about cryptic references to events that affected early Christians under the Roman empire during the first and early second centuries. Relevance to anything now, or to the future, is exactly zero.
I don’t think so because the book of Rev actually does speak about the future, for example the 1000 year reign of Christ and after that, the final test for humanity after Satan is let loose, etc.
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Ukraine - Nato - US crisis
by mikeflood indon't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....
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American has never had a war INSIDE THE AMERICAN COUNTRY.
No country with nukes nowdays will tolerate any war inside their country.