Mormons assume their religious texts are true. And that’s that. They show you the Bible as bait but what they really want is to push the the book of Mormon. Any belief in the Bible is subordinate to what they already believe according to their texts. They measure the Bible using the book of Mormon and their other books as the ruler. In Islam they teach that the Bible has been changed so many times and therefore because their book has never been changed it is of divine origin. The Mormons only like the KJV because their book quotes verbatim from it. But how can you show a ruler that an inch is not an inch when that standard is used to measure the Bible? And you don’t want to be rude and and disrespectful but you get absolutely nowhere.
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The senseless ''non partakers'' Jesus Memorial
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmatthew 26: 18-20 .
18 he said: “go into the city to so-and-so and say to him, ‘the teacher says: “my appointed time is near; i will celebrate the passover with my disciples at your home.19 so the disciples did as jesus instructed them and prepared for the passover.20 when evening came, he was reclining at the table with the 12 disciples.. only jesus and his 12 disciples were present at the passover .if jesus wanted observers, he would of had some sit down at his last meal and requested that they be present that day and future passovers.
why does the wts feel that observers ( non partakers ) need to attend the yearly memorial?
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it is improper.
All the jw do is celebrate the death of Jesus. That’s it. What is wrong with that? Some JW believe they are going to heaven others want to live on earth and believe that. At some point in the future as the scriptures say, the memorial will stop being celebrated. That is all there is too it.
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Just how damn good is this song?!
by LoveUniHateExams inpurple haze by jimi hendrix.. f**king awesome, gotta say.. enjoy .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgodayjdfsg .
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Amazing how music can make you feel like you are experiencing the past.
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The senseless ''non partakers'' Jesus Memorial
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmatthew 26: 18-20 .
18 he said: “go into the city to so-and-so and say to him, ‘the teacher says: “my appointed time is near; i will celebrate the passover with my disciples at your home.19 so the disciples did as jesus instructed them and prepared for the passover.20 when evening came, he was reclining at the table with the 12 disciples.. only jesus and his 12 disciples were present at the passover .if jesus wanted observers, he would of had some sit down at his last meal and requested that they be present that day and future passovers.
why does the wts feel that observers ( non partakers ) need to attend the yearly memorial?
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no elite, no memorial
“until he arrives”( to paraphrase the related verse) Obviously, the verse means that at some point it will stop so the interpretation is based on text not a wt dogma. In the meantime, how is the observation not based on scripture or inproper?
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The senseless ''non partakers'' Jesus Memorial
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmatthew 26: 18-20 .
18 he said: “go into the city to so-and-so and say to him, ‘the teacher says: “my appointed time is near; i will celebrate the passover with my disciples at your home.19 so the disciples did as jesus instructed them and prepared for the passover.20 when evening came, he was reclining at the table with the 12 disciples.. only jesus and his 12 disciples were present at the passover .if jesus wanted observers, he would of had some sit down at his last meal and requested that they be present that day and future passovers.
why does the wts feel that observers ( non partakers ) need to attend the yearly memorial?
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I think it is spelled: Nisan
Not the car.
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The senseless ''non partakers'' Jesus Memorial
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmatthew 26: 18-20 .
18 he said: “go into the city to so-and-so and say to him, ‘the teacher says: “my appointed time is near; i will celebrate the passover with my disciples at your home.19 so the disciples did as jesus instructed them and prepared for the passover.20 when evening came, he was reclining at the table with the 12 disciples.. only jesus and his 12 disciples were present at the passover .if jesus wanted observers, he would of had some sit down at his last meal and requested that they be present that day and future passovers.
why does the wts feel that observers ( non partakers ) need to attend the yearly memorial?
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Nissan ( not the car ) 14, the “Memorial” is the anniversary of Christ’s death and all JW’s celebrate that event together.
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Who are the 144,000? Considering the immediate context of Revelation chapter 7
by raymond frantz inwho are the 144,000?
a critical examination of the teaching of the 144,000 from the perspective of an ex jx considering context and other references .this is from a series of videos called new light where i scrutinise all the major teachings of the watchtower.. https://youtu.be/aaseuzr-sxs.
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NBD
How does criticizing an argument debunk it?
But first of all, are you saying that the door is open for everybody to go to heaven according to your Bible interpretation?
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Who are the 144,000? Considering the immediate context of Revelation chapter 7
by raymond frantz inwho are the 144,000?
a critical examination of the teaching of the 144,000 from the perspective of an ex jx considering context and other references .this is from a series of videos called new light where i scrutinise all the major teachings of the watchtower.. https://youtu.be/aaseuzr-sxs.
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Why select that number to be literal when all around it are considered symbolic?
Regardless. It is a finite number. Not everybody goes to heaven.
How could you represent a finite number symbolically instead of simply revealing the number. Number is also a fraction of the vast majority, etc.
144k = 1M? 144M? 12? unknown?
Also, the number or people is predetermined not so with those on earth, the door is open for everybody.
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Who are the 144,000? Considering the immediate context of Revelation chapter 7
by raymond frantz inwho are the 144,000?
a critical examination of the teaching of the 144,000 from the perspective of an ex jx considering context and other references .this is from a series of videos called new light where i scrutinise all the major teachings of the watchtower.. https://youtu.be/aaseuzr-sxs.
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How do your make sense out of religious people's fantasies?
The subject I am commenting on is the interpretation of what the Bible is saying, not validating whether or not what the Bible says is true.That is a different subject.
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Who are the 144,000? Considering the immediate context of Revelation chapter 7
by raymond frantz inwho are the 144,000?
a critical examination of the teaching of the 144,000 from the perspective of an ex jx considering context and other references .this is from a series of videos called new light where i scrutinise all the major teachings of the watchtower.. https://youtu.be/aaseuzr-sxs.
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Again, there's just no basis for saying this other than assertions from you, JWs, some others.
Not an assertion. There is a basis, as you have probably read wt commentary and scriptural basis with argumentation in support of the belief.
Relating to the literary device Paul used referring to a heavenly Jerusalem as having real foundations, etc., one shouldn’t conclude too much other than these spiritual men saw something better from God other than the temporary enjoyment of sin.
But if you read carefully my previous commentaries that you are kindly responding to, all I meant to say is that it makes sense to me that some people will live ultimately on earth as wt teaches about God’s Eternal Purpose, and some people will go to heaven to reign with Chirst.