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  Oct 8 1966 Awake! PDF-- pushes 1975 date

  by cabasilas in

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  2. bible

  details about how to download the october 8, 1966 awake!

  magazine pdf will appear at the end of this post.

  background.

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  Fisherman

  strange title, strange book

  Bible is s strange book too with its symbolism and allusions and irony—and the preaching work. The concept of 6000 years then another 1000 years and all the reasons, made so much sense. It was irresistible logic—same as the length of generation. A lot of people went too far with it in the way they lived their lives expecting imminent doom being too convinced in their minds, others hoped but carried on normally with their lives. Hard to let go. Even now, the idea just makes so much sense.
  
  
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  Were JWs Right That There Would Be A Time When Governments Would Go After All Religion?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  they have predicted this for years.

  religions of the world would become attacked by the governments.

  the only difference is when they go after jehovah’s witnesses, then jehovah god will step in and destroy the governments..

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  Fisherman

  It’s plausible. At some point in time the era of religion in human history with the garb and rituals and fighting and interfering with secular goals will close. The money and focus will be on government giving people a better life.
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  Would a JW accused to be a murderer (in a judicial committee) be reported to the police?

  by psyco in

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  2. beliefs

  i am wondering if a jw accused to be a murderer (or any other serious crime except csa) in a judicial committee would be reported to the police.. if i sexually abused or molested a child, i would not be reported to the police.. what about if i killed a person: would i be instead?.

  it is not a matter of being right or wrong but i am only curious to know if there is at least a sort of coherence regarding the internal policies for serious crimes....

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  Fisherman

  I’m just guessing but if a JW witnessed a crime, he would report it to the authorities. However, in any religion why bother going to a priest or minister to get things off one’s conscience if the confession was going to be published to a third party or reported to law enforcement?
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  How far do we get away from 1914

  by PimoElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

  they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

  with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

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  Fisherman

  I have a quote attributed to Nathan Knorr.

  Hi van,

  Part of what you quoted, NHK said. About the Bible, Jesus, etc. He also said that in conversation to different people.

  I never heard him say that he doubted 1914. The opposite is true. He expressed that he was convinced about the date.

  However, I want to clarify that when he said he knew Jehovah the Bible etc., he did not say he wasn’t sure about 1914 or other beliefs. He only spoke about what he knew were true not about other beliefs being true or not true but on other occasions he expressed that he was convinced about the end of the Gentile Times.
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  How far do we get away from 1914

  by PimoElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

  they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

  with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

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  Fisherman

  believe they already are.

  Absolutely not. 1914 is solidly based for JW. It even rhymes with Nissan 14. Here is a challenge, according to Mathew 1:17, how long is 14 generations?
  
  
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  How far do we get away from 1914

  by PimoElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

  they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

  with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

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  Fisherman

  A similar situation that Jesus confronted in his day. Nothing new.

  As you say, “appears” to be well founded. That’s the difference, beliefs that may or may not be true in our day juxtaposition the truth that Jesus spoke in his day. —Psalms 125:1
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  How far do we get away from 1914

  by PimoElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

  they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

  with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

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  Fisherman

  the Great War provided visible evidente that God's purpose was being realized on earth

  To JW and those with insight, yes. To others it is subjective.
  
  
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  How far do we get away from 1914

  by PimoElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

  they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

  with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

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  Fisherman

  False, it is a matter of opinion of modern historians as to when the Great War began but that precise beginning is not essential for the Great War broke out in 1914 and in that same year.

  That is not the point. Are you saying that WT never taught or published that ww1 started on oct 1914?

  Also, are you saying that wt cannot go back to the drawing board and change our understanding of Bible chronology or prophecy?

  You may recall the teaching of generation relating to 1914 was so logical and clear cut that it seemed like a dilemma when nothing happened 80 years later and wt changed it. Can you set your heart on 1914 like you did on generation or are you prepared to let it go and still remain faithful based on all the other evidence that cannot be falsified even if 1914 becomes a 1975. I have.
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  How far do we get away from 1914

  by PimoElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

  they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

  with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

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  Fisherman

  Ozzi,

  a witness in court testifies to what he sees and hears. No one is interested in what he believes.
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  How far do we get away from 1914

  by PimoElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

  they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

  with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

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  Fisherman

  the faithful have to accept this unprovable teaching,

  Faith is based on empirical evidence. Such evidence doesn’t come from explanations or logical deductions or subjective evidence. Convincing evidence that JW have can come only from God not from reading a book.