Posts by Fisherman

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Bring on the YOUNG elders

by enoughisenough in

there seems to be a push to fast track the younger men to become elders.

beings jesus was 30 when he took up his ministry, i would think that would sort of be an age gauge...the older men were to have their children in subjection, so some were old enough to have children that were old enough to want to rebel.

( that's my slant ) how will the ones who have been jw for years respond to being counseled by those younger than some of their grandchildren?

Fisherman

Elders and ministerial servants are less likely to leave the truth.”

Like everyone else the main reason people get df is $ex. Being an elder or having any other position doesn’t make a person less vulnerable. People leave the cong or stop attending mainly because they get angry about something or they are stumbled. And being an elder or an aspiring ms being in a position of power and authority shields the elder from being hurt by others and since that is the main reason for leaving that is why the elder is likely to stay enjoying respect and position and authority over others and the spiritual satisfaction and the pleasure that comes from this, so because elders are less likely to have bitter feelings resulting from feelings of being mistreated are less likely to leave. Young bros are very eager to be leaders and bucking for position but it’s not like the old days where they were likely to wait a long time until the cong was good are ready to appoint them. Realizing they may need to wait a long time to qualify may cause them to give up.

This is the human element of the org being considered as a variable. Everyone though is in the org because they are believers and people don’t leave because they change their minds although that may come after but they leave because of feelings seems to me.

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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.

by Fisherman in

obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.

Fisherman

In the first century, the disciples saw all the parts of Jesus’s prophecy being fulfilled and realized it was the sign he told them as they saw all those things occur whereas to everybody else of that wicked generation it wasn’t a sign nor did they realize it was nor concur with the apostles that it was. They rejected the preaching work and neither did they flee Jerusalem when they saw the Roman armies or believe it was a sign. To that evil generation the sign that Jesus gave to his disciples wasn’t a sign for them but it was for his disciples.

The sign that we @ JW have been preaching about all these years too although experienced by and affecting everyone like in the first century is not viewed as the sign of the last days either by people in general.

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Did you ever meet someone born in the 1800’s?

by Fisherman in

i met freddie franz who was born in the 1880’s and many others from the 1880’s.

but as a very small child i remember someone very old aged 106 and that person was born around 1856 which means that he was around people from the 1700’s..

Fisherman

first I thought this thread was just an innocent question

It is.

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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.

by Fisherman in

obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.

Fisherman

The generation Jesus talked about would experience the aforementioned composite sign as well as the events of the great tribulation.

39 In reply he said to them: “A wicked and adulterous generation keeps on seeking a sign, but no sign will be given it except the sign of Joʹnah the prophet.

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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.

by Fisherman in

obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.

Fisherman

the exact opposite of what Jesus taught about the last generation , all fulfillments.

The point is that the length of “this generation” is limited to the age of the second group of anointed.

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Polio is spreading in New York waters

by Fisherman in

according to news reports, the polio virus has been spreading in ny waters since april of this year.

polio is a crippling disease that affects the bones.

i actually know someone that had polio and is crippled shrinking the length of his arm and leg.

Fisherman

According to news reports, the polio virus has been spreading in NY waters since April of this year. Polio is a crippling disease that affects the bones. I actually know someone that had polio and is crippled shrinking the length of his arm and leg. I also remember a boy who had polio aged 10 walking around with metal braces over his limbs for support when I was age 5. I also went to a orthopedic doctor for a checkup at age 13 who had polio. I wonder how in the world did polio come back into the US. My guess and I’m probably wrong is illegal aliens “sneaking across the border” and then going to NY on their own to live or being sent there by the government. I’m just guessing.

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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.

by Fisherman in

obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.

Fisherman

Does that make me a part of the Civil War generation?

Wt now interprets “this generation” to refer to the generation of the “anointed” .So the focus changed from the generation of 1914 to the generation of the anointed and it is their lifespan only that limits the length of generation. For example if someone was alive during the civil they were part of that generation. And if an anointed individual’s life over lapped and was anointed during the life of FF for example, one of the oldest anointed (and I met older) he is considered part of the anointed generation that will not pass away until all these things occur—as wt interprets that scripture at this time. So simply put. It ain’t about the 1914 generation that should not pass away.

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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.

by Fisherman in

obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.

Fisherman

very silly of them. overlap

Valid dictionary definition seems to me. The puzzle is what did Jesus mean by generation in the olivette in terms of time. WT had applied a definition of generation to a time limit until recently. At present there is no wt defined time limit assigned to the olivette generation except that the second group of anointed will not die off before the great tribulation. Nothing more is officially stated or implied.

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Do you believe that this life is all there is

by Fisherman in

the bible records resurrections and there is orher evidence besides that gives hope.

what do you think, is there enough evidence to believe in another life?.

Fisherman

have made certain that his "subjects" were clearly made aware of a future life,

The Bible makes that crystal clear.

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Beware of "organization." - They said it!

by punkofnice in

watchtower, september 15, 1895: "beware of "organization.

" it is wholly unnecessary.

the bible rules will be the only rules you will need.

Fisherman

WT claims progressive understanding and not that wt teachings is an un changeable standard. For example, wt once celebrated christmas and believed in the cross.