when is the kingdom of god coming?.
on being asked by the pharisees when the kingdom of god was coming, he answered them: “the kingdom of god is not coming with paratherisis; 21 nor will people say, ‘see here!’ or, ‘there!’ for look!
the kingdom of god is in your midst.” —lu 17:20,21. .
then would/could have been told By Jehovah when the GT and the big A will occur .
Absolutely remember that and think it was in print too.
Also, that God would not do a single thing before telling the “prophets” meaning that or implying that gb on earth would at some point know.
with this process, there is no spe&m, no egg, no conception but a developing life.
what is the world coming to?.
https://abcn.ws/3qozsjj.
Don’t know if what this guy says it’s true.
Anybody know?
when i was a teenager a younger fellow workmate was involved in the sport of judo.i got interested and went along to a number of sessions and took to it like a sponge to water ,and as a sport i was happy participating in.. not that much longer another workmate was getting re-activated in the religion of jw`s.
which i had never heard o before and then got interested in that .. conflict : was judo a sport that was compatible with j.w beliefs?
sadly i decided it was not and stopped any further involvement.. to this day i resent that decision i made back then .and i`m 82 years old now.. it was a sport i was comfortable doing and i enjoyed it.and i gave it up because of the religion .who knows what i may have achieved had i continued with it.
Hi Smiddy,
I remember someone at an assembly give a similar story to yours. He really expressed how he did not want to give up martial arts. I could see in his face how much he liked to practice the sport.
There were a lot of likable characters like yourself back then that I met, for example JWs who had done all sorts of things in the past and stopped. From pr0$titution to dr&gs, scientists, g&ys and a whole bunch of other people that gave up things like you did. I truly admired them. Not so much for the religious aspect of it. But because of the integrity of their heart, their sincerity, their generosity. The courage, the completeness of their heart. I felt like they were giving me this gift. What respect I had and how much I cherished what they did. I took it personal. That was how I measured people. I wasn’t impressed by years of service. The older you get, the more you understand, especially when you go through things and experience them yourself.
if laws were passed compelling the church to report crimes to government authorities and there was no legal way around it and the church was forced to comply and did comply, nobody would confess their sins.
it wouldn’t stop people from committing crimes, they just wouldn’t tell their church about it.
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AM, I posted a very simple solution that Uncle Sam can implement . Have Scotus re-interpret Berger’s decision and the constitutionality of clergy privileges and do like the recent Roe v Wade decision leaving it up to the State to legislate statutory reporting laws. End of story. Then the church cannot use the defense that Federal law and the constitution protects confidential communications that conflict State mandatory reporting laws putting the church at risk for a Federal lawsuit.
( Decades ago, Scotus put a doctrine into effect called qualified immunity. Simply put, this decision protects the police nationwide from lawsuits and criminal prosecution. I can write an essay on this. But simply put the police are protected from lawsuits and prosecution in the course of their job, which pretty much gives police a lot of power to hit you, falsely accuse you, steal from you, violate your civil rights, etc. But because of a national outrage and bad publicity these past years due to rampant misconduct, some States on a State level have revoked police QI— to appease the public. But guess what, QI does not come from the State but from SCOTUS so even if a law enforcement officer is sued in a local court and QI applies, even if the State revoked QI, the SCOTUS doctrine applies. Likewise the clergy privilege could apply even if invalidated by a State with a reporting statute. —I may be wrong.
But why only pick on the church? If you get rid of the constitution altogether criminals will have zero protection. No more guns and no more privacy inside people’s houses to commit crimes. Police can go inside anyone’s house and put an end of crime altogether. No more 5th Amendment to protect criminals either. Criminals will need to confess to crimes. No more attorney’s defending guilty people either. No more criminals. No legal defenses. Simple.
if laws were passed compelling the church to report crimes to government authorities and there was no legal way around it and the church was forced to comply and did comply, nobody would confess their sins.
it wouldn’t stop people from committing crimes, they just wouldn’t tell their church about it.
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Over the years here I've been challenged and insulted. It can be stimulating, even helpful, intellectually and philosophically.
So, what? The issue here is law and my topic is about law. Don’t like it, kick rocks.
if laws were passed compelling the church to report crimes to government authorities and there was no legal way around it and the church was forced to comply and did comply, nobody would confess their sins.
it wouldn’t stop people from committing crimes, they just wouldn’t tell their church about it.
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So, it's not a matter of if it should or not, but why isn't this way everywhere?
Because of how Federal laws are interpreted by lawmakers in your jurisdiction. I answered this in my previous post. Federal laws would need to be changed. Some people want to get rid of the constitution altogether. Take for example the new abo&tion Scotus decision which says that it ain’t protected by Federal law and leaves it up to each State. A lot of people are angry about this and many States want to accommodate opposers even though the act of ab&rtion is illegal in their State so they can circumvent State law in the State where abo&tion is illegal. A lot people like evading the law of their jurisdiction arguing that it is legal to do so by going to another State and getting an ab&rtion while living in a State where it is illegal. But some people don’t like this.
if laws were passed compelling the church to report crimes to government authorities and there was no legal way around it and the church was forced to comply and did comply, nobody would confess their sins.
it wouldn’t stop people from committing crimes, they just wouldn’t tell their church about it.
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Some people may not like this but in Court feelings don't matter. It is not relevant. The only issue is law. People aren’t smart enough to realize this so they get angry and feel that Courts should enforce their feelings. While people have a right to get angry, the government does not enforce feelings. For example, in the US there exists this piece of paper called the US constitution which protects the rights of criminals ( and everybody else ). For example, the 4th amendment protects the privacy of criminal s and police and other agencies have to swear an oath to defend the constitution which means protecting the rights of criminals. A lot of people may not like and fight against and get angry at the constitution and those that defend it but it is the law. A lot of people get angry at laws that protect the rights of criminals ( and they have a right to get angry but tough bananas ) for example, if you set a booby trap for a criminal and injure him while he is committing a crime on your property, you can get prosecuted because the law protects tte rights of criminals. This is just one example. Lawyers protect and defends millions of criminals even to the point of setting them free sometimes all of the time. Some States have a no bail no jail policy letting criminals go free. You don’t like it and you get angry about it too bad. Want something to be done about it legally, the law needs to be changed.
if laws were passed compelling the church to report crimes to government authorities and there was no legal way around it and the church was forced to comply and did comply, nobody would confess their sins.
it wouldn’t stop people from committing crimes, they just wouldn’t tell their church about it.
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defending religious policies that protect thousands of criminals
How am I defending religious policies?
if laws were passed compelling the church to report crimes to government authorities and there was no legal way around it and the church was forced to comply and did comply, nobody would confess their sins.
it wouldn’t stop people from committing crimes, they just wouldn’t tell their church about it.
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How is asking for a view on an issue and explaining the tension on the issue being ignorant or playing devils advocate? Shoe is on the other foot.
Catholic church would need to start reporting crimes heard at confession.
The latest WT mag proclaimed that the congregation will not shield criminals —so watch out from now on. But it really depends on the government on the Federal level to repeal laws that protect penitent communications, then there will be no legal basis not to report. Then pass compulsory reporting laws. Then also force your wife, your friends, your siblings, sons, fathers, mothers to report crimes to the authorities as well. Your lawyer too.
There are mandatory reporting laws however in place at the State level that protect children but it is up to the government to enforce those laws. But children is not directly the focal point of this topic. It’s crimes in general.
if laws were passed compelling the church to report crimes to government authorities and there was no legal way around it and the church was forced to comply and did comply, nobody would confess their sins.
it wouldn’t stop people from committing crimes, they just wouldn’t tell their church about it.
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If laws were passed compelling the church to report crimes to government authorities and there was no legal way around it and the church was forced to comply and did comply, nobody would confess their sins. It wouldn’t stop people from committing crimes, they just wouldn’t tell their church about it.
