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  “Heaven and Earth will pass away but my words will by no means pass away.”

  by Fisherman in

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  “this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.

  heaven and earth will pass away but my words will by no means pass away.”.

  the destruction of jerusalem is insignificant in the large scheme of things.

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  Only 3 gospels recount the olivette. In Revelation a great crowd survives the great tribulation that did not happen in 70 and neither did Armageddon and other climactic events such as the fall of B the great. In the Bible, prophecy can have a greater meaning and fulfillment. Take for example what Paul said about Sarah and Haagar being a prophetic drama.
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  Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

  mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

  and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

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  Hi Smiddy,

  Where did Jesus get his y chromosome from? Not from Mary and not from Adam. JW hold that Adam could have produced perfect offspring inspite of Eve’s transgression. It is noteworthy that Jesus’s genealogy is through Mary. He is not a direct descendant of any male. Eve was affected by sin only after Adam sinned.Anyway, the perfect genes that JC got from God fixed the problem and JC didn’t inherit sin from Eve or Mary—or Adam.
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  “Heaven and Earth will pass away but my words will by no means pass away.”

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  “this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.

  heaven and earth will pass away but my words will by no means pass away.”.

  the destruction of jerusalem is insignificant in the large scheme of things.

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  “This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur. Heaven and earth will pass away but my words will by no means pass away.”

  The destruction of Jerusalem is insignificant in the large scheme of things. The Jews rebuilt Judaism… and other Caesars came along…., and no change. In the large scheme of things, God takes action.

  In Revelation, Jesus tells those Christians back then that he was “coming quickly,” and obviously people believed that literally and not that he was using poetic language with the word quickly meaning thousands of years later after they all died. They saw miracles and were convinced in their mind because of all the irrefutable evidence —but aside from all the proof to base their expectations upon, nothing happened. They all passed away and the earth and heavens remains the same to the human senses.

  —Like Peter and all the other martyrs though—they were convinced, even as they were passing away and nothing they expected realized.
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  Kongressnachlese 2022 - Kinder in Betten

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  wieso werden von den zeugen jehovas auf dem diesjährigen kongress, kinder in betten gefilmt und diese filme im internet untereinander geteilt?.

  warum liefern jehovas zeugen auf dem diesjährigen kongress die vorlage das mit kindern im bett die bibel studiert werden soll?.

  warum liefern jehovas zeugen, in dem erwachet vom oktober 2007, dann eine der umfangreichsten und besten tipps im freien internet, wie man kinder erfolgreich missbraucht.. .

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  TD,

  Bedtime for children can be very unforgettable in an good or bad way. It can also be very scary. Children are specially open at this time. Parents could take advantage of this to make their kids feel loved and safe and reassure them and comfort them and as you brought out, in a subtle way inculcate God and the Bible at this receptive time.
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  Kongressnachlese 2022 - Kinder in Betten

  by + in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  wieso werden von den zeugen jehovas auf dem diesjährigen kongress, kinder in betten gefilmt und diese filme im internet untereinander geteilt?.

  warum liefern jehovas zeugen auf dem diesjährigen kongress die vorlage das mit kindern im bett die bibel studiert werden soll?.

  warum liefern jehovas zeugen, in dem erwachet vom oktober 2007, dann eine der umfangreichsten und besten tipps im freien internet, wie man kinder erfolgreich missbraucht.. .

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  filming children in beds

  What’s wrong with that? “He who knows no evil suspects none.” Seems JW had good intentions in doing that.
  
  
  
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  which Translation Now?

  by enoughisenough in

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  for those of you who still respect the bible, which translation/s are you using now?

  why?.

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  agree with the 'no comparison' part.

  Obviously, you understand what I mean because of my context.
  
  
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  which Translation Now?

  by enoughisenough in

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  for those of you who still respect the bible, which translation/s are you using now?

  why?.

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  The Amplified gives you an expanded broader meaning of the verse. I used it a lot in the past. It’s pretty good. The NWT though is just amazing. No comparison.
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  Do you believe in ultimate justice?

  by Fisherman in

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  ultimate justice means that conduct is not inconsequential.

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  Ultimate justice means that conduct is not inconsequential.
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  which Translation Now?

  by enoughisenough in

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  for those of you who still respect the bible, which translation/s are you using now?

  why?.

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  • do you guys believe the bible is the inspired word of God?

    Thats a different topic ,

    But to respond to you: It is like listening to the evidence presented at a trial. You come to your own conclusions. You evaluate the evidence on both sides and decide what you want to believe.

  
  
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  A question about the contemporary generation teaching following a conversation with a JW apologist

  by Giles Gray in

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  i would like to ask the ex-jws on this site to put their ‘apologists hat’ back on for a moment, so that i can go through the overlapping generation teaching in an attempt to make sense of it.

  i apologise if these points have already been addressed on this site.a quick background for the reason for my request… having never confronted a jw apologist on the topic, i recently engaged with a jw regarding the official understanding of a ‘generation’ and unfortunately he didn’t have an answer to the points i was making.

  i was left a little confused as to what the official jw response would/should be.so i was hoping that my thoughts below might be considered from an apologist’s perspective.the point in question relates to this section of the watchtower article below from 2008, as well as the jw.org video explanation of the overlapping generation:---:w08 2/15[box on page 25] can we calculate the length of “this generation”?the word “generation” usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event.

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  Watchtower does not debunk 587

  So what? They have their reasons and we have ours. Too bad,