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  The Great Tribulation

  by Fisherman in

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  will the great tribulation hurt individuals more than what job, jesus, roman punishment, naz&i germany, hiroshima, jail, capital punishment, disease, pain, terror, horror, soldier in the battlefield or some terrible pain people experience this very moment?

  how worse can pain and suffering get.

  it is very common.

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  free to reword

  Never said he wasn’t. Only said that his version is also another version. —Context.
  
  
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  The Great Tribulation

  by Fisherman in

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  2. beliefs

  will the great tribulation hurt individuals more than what job, jesus, roman punishment, naz&i germany, hiroshima, jail, capital punishment, disease, pain, terror, horror, soldier in the battlefield or some terrible pain people experience this very moment?

  how worse can pain and suffering get.

  it is very common.

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  stick with Jesus' version

  You mean your version of what Jesus said.

  
  
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  The Great Tribulation

  by Fisherman in

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  2. beliefs

  will the great tribulation hurt individuals more than what job, jesus, roman punishment, naz&i germany, hiroshima, jail, capital punishment, disease, pain, terror, horror, soldier in the battlefield or some terrible pain people experience this very moment?

  how worse can pain and suffering get.

  it is very common.

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  Zane, flooding the thread with the entire article doesn’t give it more weight. A reference to it suffices. Also it’s only commentary and because it specifically describes THE doesn’t invalidate that Jesus also prophesied about it. Early christians may have concluded that 70 was the fulfillment of Jesus prophecy referring to tribulation but since Revelation which was written after written after 70 also refers to a tribulation, namely the great tribulation that would is explain that JC would not return in kingdom power in 70 —“…and what will be the sign of your parousia.”
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  The Great Tribulation

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  will the great tribulation hurt individuals more than what job, jesus, roman punishment, naz&i germany, hiroshima, jail, capital punishment, disease, pain, terror, horror, soldier in the battlefield or some terrible pain people experience this very moment?

  how worse can pain and suffering get.

  it is very common.

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  1st centurygreat tribulation in Matthew as being the same as the one in Revelation. To do so totally dismisses his guarantee

  Not only Mathew but in all three gospels. These also describe events such as separation of sheep and goats and miraculous signs in the heavens and seeing the son if man, etc.. These events did not transpire in 70. Jesus reference to not occurring again obviously refers to the great tribulation before Armageddon but Jesus was also foretelling the fall of Jerusalem and the great tribulation Jews would experience. That tribulation was not worldwide so the book of Rev also adds features and events to the greater fulfillment of the prophecy as JW interprets it. 2 great tribulations are involved: the one involved Jerusalem and the involving all of mankind and we at JW see they are parallel —and reasonably ironically, and poetically, Jesus was referencing both in the same prophecy as JW see it.
  
  
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  The Great Tribulation

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  will the great tribulation hurt individuals more than what job, jesus, roman punishment, naz&i germany, hiroshima, jail, capital punishment, disease, pain, terror, horror, soldier in the battlefield or some terrible pain people experience this very moment?

  how worse can pain and suffering get.

  it is very common.

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  World war 2 the the worst tribulation ever...we got over it.

  Only to those individuals that felt it.
  
  
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  Are you convinced what the Gospels say about Jesus is true?

  by Fisherman in

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  probably, the greatest advocacy for the gospels is the jw publication: the greatest man that ever lived.

  it convinced me.. everything else that the bible says about the resurrection and eternal life logically follows.. the testimony of a “witness” in court matters only if it is observation not commentary ( expert witness is also commentary): what did you see, what did you hear, what is the magnitude of your measurement.

  not, are you convinced; that is only belief.

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  Smid, you sound very reasonable and objective, that’s my approach at trier of facts.
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  Are you convinced what the Gospels say about Jesus is true?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  probably, the greatest advocacy for the gospels is the jw publication: the greatest man that ever lived.

  it convinced me.. everything else that the bible says about the resurrection and eternal life logically follows.. the testimony of a “witness” in court matters only if it is observation not commentary ( expert witness is also commentary): what did you see, what did you hear, what is the magnitude of your measurement.

  not, are you convinced; that is only belief.

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  prove that Jesus actually existed

  Today’s date

  You also need to consider that proof doesn’t convince.

  One outside source is Josephus. A Jewish reference to Jesus is the book Toledo Yeshu.
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  The Great Tribulation

  by Fisherman in

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  2. beliefs

  will the great tribulation hurt individuals more than what job, jesus, roman punishment, naz&i germany, hiroshima, jail, capital punishment, disease, pain, terror, horror, soldier in the battlefield or some terrible pain people experience this very moment?

  how worse can pain and suffering get.

  it is very common.

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  The G.T. isn't going to erupt in mass deaths & destruction

  ” no flesh will be saved” that’s massive, so potentially it can.

  But to those living it is empirical evidence of God and Christ.
  
  
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  Acts 20:28

  by Fisherman in

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  acts 20:28 literally says: “his own blood”.

  nwt interprets the verse: “the blood of his own son”.

  nwt is an accurate interpretation because the verse is axiomatically referring to the blood of jesus and not the blood of god..

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  how anyone in this life or any other life could think of GOD having blood ?

  Because it’s utter nonsense. How can God depend on his own creation for survival?
  
  
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  Acts 20:28

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  acts 20:28 literally says: “his own blood”.

  nwt interprets the verse: “the blood of his own son”.

  nwt is an accurate interpretation because the verse is axiomatically referring to the blood of jesus and not the blood of god..

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  God in human form

  Jesus said in human form that God is a spirit—and of course what the rest of the Bible says about God and about Jesus.