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Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Fisherman

as a message written in a specific manner at a specific time and a specific place to a specific audience in response to a specific problem, but attempts to interpret it outside that context age
The identity of the Genesis serpent for example was interpreted by John in Revelation about 1600 years later. Not to mention the identity of the disgusting thing causing desolation spoken by Daniel in the Babylonian diaspora interpreted by Jesus circa 33CE and finally realizing in the Roman armies in 70CE, and the messianic prophecies realizing in Jesus—to a different audience, etc… so your view seriously fails here.
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Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Fisherman

One thing is certain. The Babylon the great prophecy has not been fulfilled.
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Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Fisherman

there just wasn’t enough wiggle room
There is. For example, a couple of years ago a new method of interpreting prophecy was explained at a wt study which established a basis for some aspects of a prophecy not to have a greater fulfillment or exact parallel while other parts do have multiple fulfillments.
The entire Bible is decoded by JW commentary. What remains is the realization of JW eschatology.: Cry of peace and security and the end of religion. JW are not pretending or putting on a show, they are convinced.
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Red Flags identifying Jehovah's Witnesses as a Cult
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
what are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.

one that comes to mind is.

1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.
Fisherman

This is not about me.
You shouldn’t conclude that from my post. I don’t know about you individually. I just meant that all JW are sinful people like everybody else. So I wouldn’t be concerned about my reputation. Look at Peter, look at David or at anybody. Everybody sins. And that’s what the ransom is for. —Does that sound cultish?
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Red Flags identifying Jehovah's Witnesses as a Cult
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
what are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.

one that comes to mind is.

1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.
Fisherman

One cannot leave Jehovah's Witnesses with one's reputation intact
Even if you stay, who has a perfect reputation from gb down to joe pub 3rd class? And maybe not in public. But everybody is human so nobody is any better. Some have better self control than others. There is a difference between being wicked and being weak. In public and formally there is an appearance. So do you care in the least what people think about you. Don’t you believe in God can exalt you and humiliate others?
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Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Fisherman

the Bible is “magical”
It is not Rome because the great tribulation and Armageddon did not happen and neither did Rome suffer the same fate as BTG.
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Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Fisherman

superstitious belief
If that is the case, end of discussion.
Now, if we consider that the Bible is the word of God as a given factor, then we are looking for values of variables such as the meaning of BTG using the entire Bible as an equation
Since we already know the answer when we consider the Bible is a sham, we are not trying to validate the Bible in this equation. That is a different equation —and subject —and being a troll —and disruptive. The book of Revelation describes the fall of Babylon the great, the great tribulation, Armageddon, the Millennium, Resurrection of the dead, etc.
Start your own topic about the validity of the Bible. Your comments would be relevant under that subject.
Respectfully,
FM
121
Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Fisherman

Rome
Rome did not suffer the fate of BTH therefore not Rome.
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Jesus as 'The mighty + almighty God'
by JW Answers in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
jehovah's witnesses refuse to believe that jesus is the almighty god.

they would state that jesus is 'mighty', but not almighty.. below is a 30 minute video proving from the word of god that the lord jesus christ is both mighty and almighty, separate from the father but equal too.. the verses used from scripture show without a doubt that christ is mighty (isaiah 9:6) and almighty (rev 1:7-8)..
Fisherman

Jesus is the ~~Almighty~~ God.
Killed
debunked
121
Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Fisherman

Greetings Kosonen!
Of course , Revelation says it’s a mystery and doesn’t disclose her identity— but if the shoe fits…. Another hint the book gives is “her spiritistic practices” so that wouldn’t imply pure worship.
There are only 2 candidates described in the Bible fitting the bill: secular and religious. Since Daniel and Armageddon describes world rulers suffering a different fate, it seems to be religious.