If I didn’t know for a fact that the proximate cause is intelligent design, my only guess would be an infinite descriptive universe and things did not happen by chance but by an inherent descriptive drive of the universe. I don’t believe that a random number generator with billons of digits would roll the same dice billions and billions of times —which is what cofty is saying— resulting in non existence with one bad roll of the dice. Horsefeathers! and birdbrains.
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Chance or intelligent design?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA incofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.
i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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On the JW website. Pregnant woman and baby also list their lives.
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1975 on the back burner
by Fisherman in“1975” still marks 6000 years from the creation of adam in wt calendar.
according to “all scriptures inspired” book, there is a gap between the creation of adam and the creation of eve and her marriage to adam.
it was at that point in time when eve was created that marked the end of the 6th creative day and the beginning of god’s rest, the 7th day as recorded in genesis.
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Therefore, in my opinion, Watchtower took the year 1975 off the table 43 years ago.
How long is the 7th Creative (rest) day?
Paul refers to it as ongoing 2k+ years ago. With the symbolism of 7 in the Bible, God’s rest appears to be 7000 years long( so persuasive!). 1975 still marks end of 6000 years from the creation of Adam. The 1000 year slot that Scholar highlighted is left for the Millennium. The gap for the creation of Eve must be less than 1000 years given a 7000 year rest. Scholar highlighted plausibility of 50 years in 2025–also a grand Jubilee ( the creation of Eve!) 50 years after the creation of Adam in 1975. It would add up. Given the millennium would begin in 2025 means that the GT must begin before the Jubilee starts if the Jubilee symbolizes the start of the Millennium.
WT always referred to the end of the 6000 years which as scholar highlighted is 7k years
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1975 on the back burner
by Fisherman in“1975” still marks 6000 years from the creation of adam in wt calendar.
according to “all scriptures inspired” book, there is a gap between the creation of adam and the creation of eve and her marriage to adam.
it was at that point in time when eve was created that marked the end of the 6th creative day and the beginning of god’s rest, the 7th day as recorded in genesis.
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Thank you, scholar. I agree and I understand.
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Chance or intelligent design?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA incofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.
i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.
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There is only one possible explanation: Since God is good by definition, there must be a good explanation which God will give in his good time, or the universe and life unjustly happened, and that is not possible inside this universe because nothing cannot become the universe and there are infinite odds every step of the way. There must be a mechanism of action and drive—God. Something must have no beginning for anything else to exist
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“Lazarus, come out!”
by Fisherman inmany people here have expressed faith in evolution and in other theories—but in all honesty, do you have any hope whatsoever in your heart or in the back of your mind ?
truthfully..
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Having ''faith'' in anything, doesn't prove anything either
Proof comes before faith. No proof, no faith. Faith involves trust and hope and logic standing on that good evidence. —There is a risk of being disappointed though as with someone that is unfaithful and disloyal but there is no reason to believe that.
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1975 on the back burner
by Fisherman in“1975” still marks 6000 years from the creation of adam in wt calendar.
according to “all scriptures inspired” book, there is a gap between the creation of adam and the creation of eve and her marriage to adam.
it was at that point in time when eve was created that marked the end of the 6th creative day and the beginning of god’s rest, the 7th day as recorded in genesis.
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“1975” still marks 6000 years from the creation of Adam in WT calendar. According to “All Scriptures Inspired” book, there is a gap between the creation of Adam and the creation of Eve and her marriage to Adam. It was at that point in time when Eve was created that marked the end of the 6th Creative Day and the beginning of God’s rest, the 7th day as recorded in Genesis. WT had always taught that creation took 6 creative days—and 1 rest day that would last 7000 years. And the last 1000 years of the 7000 years is the Millennium reign of Christ which would start at the end of 6000 years counting from the beginning of the creation of Eve.
Here we are 48 years later after (1975) the creation of Adam and he is still a bachelor. It is ironic if the marriage of Adam would also correspond with the “marriage of the lamb” explained in Revelation. As WT explained in the past, the 1000 year reign of Christ should neatly begin 6000 years after the creation of Eve. And the end of the 1000 year reign of Christ which is also the end of the 7th creative day and the end of God’s rest. God then proclaims at the end of the Millenium, 7000 years of man’s existence, the 7th day, as “good”. —Makes sense but not sure if it is still JW doctrine at present. Makes you wonder because Adam had a 48 year old and counting relationship with God but still took sides with his wife after that instead of sticking with God ( that doesn’t make sense ). On the other hand,it is hard to believe that God waited so long to create Eve.
So, all the Bible prophecies apparently converge at the same time: the seven times, the marriage of the lamb, Armageddon, Christ’s last day’s prophecy, the feet of clay, this generation…….
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Chance or intelligent design?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA incofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.
i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.
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It’s chemistry.
“It just happened. Yawn”
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“Lazarus, come out!”
by Fisherman inmany people here have expressed faith in evolution and in other theories—but in all honesty, do you have any hope whatsoever in your heart or in the back of your mind ?
truthfully..
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Smiddy
You can have hope and faith in whatever you wish ,GOD or whatever, it doesn`t mean it is going to eventuate.
Don’t throw in the towel, smid. What God does to an individual (and groups) is to give each empirical evidence to substantiate in such a way so he can conclude unequivocally in his mind even if the apparent facts seem to contradict.
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“Lazarus, come out!”
by Fisherman inmany people here have expressed faith in evolution and in other theories—but in all honesty, do you have any hope whatsoever in your heart or in the back of your mind ?
truthfully..
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Many people here have expressed faith in evolution and in other theories—but in all honesty, do you have any hope whatsoever in your heart or in the back of your mind ? Truthfully.