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  Is Bible chronology true?

  by Fisherman in

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  according to jw interpretation of bible chronology, the earliest human, adam, came into existence some 6,048 years ago compared to scientific dating of human fossils believed to be much older.

  since jesus validated the creation of adam and eve as historical people and jc’s own lineage is traced all the way back to adam, bible chronology is certified as true and there must be something wrong with scientific dating.

  what proves scientific dating as accurate that humans are much older than what bible chronology says?.

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  Fisherman

  @Mowgliandbalu

  Thanks for the article

  @Slidin Fast

  thanks for the article

  cofty

  I was able to now open the links you referenced. I couldn’t open before. But all that info is too overwhelming.
  
  
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  Is Bible chronology true?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to jw interpretation of bible chronology, the earliest human, adam, came into existence some 6,048 years ago compared to scientific dating of human fossils believed to be much older.

  since jesus validated the creation of adam and eve as historical people and jc’s own lineage is traced all the way back to adam, bible chronology is certified as true and there must be something wrong with scientific dating.

  what proves scientific dating as accurate that humans are much older than what bible chronology says?.

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  Fisherman

  Didn’t Jesus teach almost exclusively using parables and allegories?

  Hi vid. Sometimes he did but in his genealogy, he is listed as son of Adam and Adam is listed as son of God. A genealogy is not allegory. Also JC refers to the first human couple-non other than Adam and Eve as being created. JC is also referred to as the second Adam. And many many other verses refer to Adam and Even and the reason for death and redemption associated with their sin so their historicity is written in stone as far as the Bible teaches.
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  Calling DD Data Dog

  by Fisherman in

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  how about you dd?

  start a topic, make a comment, do something.

  miss your posts here.

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  Fisherman

  How about you DD? Where are you? Start a topic, make a comment, do something. Miss your posts here.
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  Is Bible chronology true?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to jw interpretation of bible chronology, the earliest human, adam, came into existence some 6,048 years ago compared to scientific dating of human fossils believed to be much older.

  since jesus validated the creation of adam and eve as historical people and jc’s own lineage is traced all the way back to adam, bible chronology is certified as true and there must be something wrong with scientific dating.

  what proves scientific dating as accurate that humans are much older than what bible chronology says?.

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  Fisherman

  just gave you half a million data packed scientific papers. Haven't you read them yet?

  It takes a half million papers and philosophical appeals to christian thinkers to try to prove an argument?

  All you need is to prove the dating is one measurement. Can you do that empirically or do you need millions of documents to explain?
  
  
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  Is Bible chronology true?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to jw interpretation of bible chronology, the earliest human, adam, came into existence some 6,048 years ago compared to scientific dating of human fossils believed to be much older.

  since jesus validated the creation of adam and eve as historical people and jc’s own lineage is traced all the way back to adam, bible chronology is certified as true and there must be something wrong with scientific dating.

  what proves scientific dating as accurate that humans are much older than what bible chronology says?.

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  Fisherman

  Obviously, the certification is believed to come from Jesus by referring to to Adam and Eve as historical. In fact the whole story of Adam is integrated with JC life and ministry and death as a ransom. The point that you fail to grasp is that according to the Bible, A&E were not allegorical and Jesus verified or certified their existence as being created. Also, Jesus genealogy stated in the Bible shows historical characters and the the time frame of that chronology can be extrapolated to a number less than scientific dating. Therefore based on JC, Bible chronology is certified as true so there is good reason for JW to believe Bible chronology compared to scientific dating. Obliviously cofty doesn’t have to believe JC or the Bible but in order to debunk the belief of those that do, you need to prove that humans existed before when Bible chronology says so and that has not been done. So the belief stands.
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  Is Bible chronology true?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to jw interpretation of bible chronology, the earliest human, adam, came into existence some 6,048 years ago compared to scientific dating of human fossils believed to be much older.

  since jesus validated the creation of adam and eve as historical people and jc’s own lineage is traced all the way back to adam, bible chronology is certified as true and there must be something wrong with scientific dating.

  what proves scientific dating as accurate that humans are much older than what bible chronology says?.

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  Fisherman

  Fishy your OP is THE VERY DEFINITION of begging the question.

  No it is not. Simply put: The Bible says that humans began to exist some 6000 years ago whereas scientific dating says much older. That is the issue. There is no proof that scientific dating debunks Bible chronology.
  
  
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  Is Bible chronology true?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to jw interpretation of bible chronology, the earliest human, adam, came into existence some 6,048 years ago compared to scientific dating of human fossils believed to be much older.

  since jesus validated the creation of adam and eve as historical people and jc’s own lineage is traced all the way back to adam, bible chronology is certified as true and there must be something wrong with scientific dating.

  what proves scientific dating as accurate that humans are much older than what bible chronology says?.

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  Fisherman

  begging the question '?

  Doesn’t apply here
  
  
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  Is Bible chronology true?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to jw interpretation of bible chronology, the earliest human, adam, came into existence some 6,048 years ago compared to scientific dating of human fossils believed to be much older.

  since jesus validated the creation of adam and eve as historical people and jc’s own lineage is traced all the way back to adam, bible chronology is certified as true and there must be something wrong with scientific dating.

  what proves scientific dating as accurate that humans are much older than what bible chronology says?.

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  Fisherman

  Jeffro,

  The tension here is not your favorite version of Bible chronology compared to wt interpretation but that scientific dating is much older than Bible chronology challenging the Bible.
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  I find it interesting that after the cult people still hold on to religion....

  by BeaverEater in

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  im not an atheist, makes no mathematical sense, nor does the buy(more) bull(shit) god make any logical sense... maybe a deist on my best day, in the end you cannot get something from nothing, paradox if you ask me... but in reality i just dont care.

  while in, and moving out of the cult, its like a roller coaster, emotionally, yet, for me, over time, i just take it one day at a time, and if appeasing some special deity is required, well i guess i failed.

  lol.

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  Fisherman

  laws of thermodynamics

  The descriptive universe did not exist before the big bang. Or did it? What laws applied if it did or didn’t? Fill me in on what existed or didn’t exist before the universe existed and what laws applied or didn’t apply, Einstein.
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  I find it interesting that after the cult people still hold on to religion....

  by BeaverEater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  im not an atheist, makes no mathematical sense, nor does the buy(more) bull(shit) god make any logical sense... maybe a deist on my best day, in the end you cannot get something from nothing, paradox if you ask me... but in reality i just dont care.

  while in, and moving out of the cult, its like a roller coaster, emotionally, yet, for me, over time, i just take it one day at a time, and if appeasing some special deity is required, well i guess i failed.

  lol.

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  Fisherman

  The funny thing is, your ‘solution’ is that the universe appeared out of nothing, and an infinitely complex being just always existed.

  Not funny at all. The premise is that something always existed, God and the universe came from something.