Posts by Fisherman

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How did you pass the time when the Kingdom Hall meetings became boring and repetitive/

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

another boring and repetitive ''watchtower study.

'' all the articles are about the ''faithful and discreet slave.''.

for whatever reason, you tolerate this for years.

Fisherman

He looked interested. He asked in a sincere way

Magnum, I enjoy reading your posts.

If you were an elder, you know that seeming sincerity may disguise investigation. He will go the the body and report about you. The intention is good, to help you if you need spiritual help.Then again maybe he is sincere and won’t do that.

Dont you realize that other JW too perceive that something is wrong: WT said the end would come in the 1914 generation. It didn’t. There is also a new younger class of anointed. There is no shortage of anointed for the gov body. One would figure that only a lingering very old anointed would be left but the gb is getting younger all the time. And other things. But JW experience a real relationship with God and they still experience it inside JW religion which cannot be invalidated by the perceived wrongs. This relationship with God trumps everything else.

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My defense speech before the judicial committee

by Disfellowshipped-Brother in

dear brothers!.

we have gathered here because, according to your claims, i have apostatized, and as elders, it is your duty to maintain the purity of the flock.

it seems now that someone has contaminated it, apparently.

Fisherman

But it is, nonetheless, an attempt to defend oneself from an accusation.

You want to win an argument. I’m not wasting anymore time. I’ve made my point. You can bring a pink elephant to Court and call it whatever you like.

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My defense speech before the judicial committee

by Disfellowshipped-Brother in

dear brothers!.

we have gathered here because, according to your claims, i have apostatized, and as elders, it is your duty to maintain the purity of the flock.

it seems now that someone has contaminated it, apparently.

Fisherman

I do think it is valid to defend yourself by claiming that your accusers have it wrong

For example if someone hits you and you retaliate by hitting them back. The State charges you with assault and you claim self defense and the State has it all wrong cuz you say the laws should be different and they took the land from the Indians and you are a sovereign citizen so you don’t need a driver’s license. By legal definition that is assault and not self defense.Some supporters may like what you say but in the jurisdiction of the church over you, you committed apostasy and you are not repentant. Outside the jurisdiction of the church you can call pink elephants a defense or believe whatever you like.

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My defense speech before the judicial committee

by Disfellowshipped-Brother in

dear brothers!.

we have gathered here because, according to your claims, i have apostatized, and as elders, it is your duty to maintain the purity of the flock.

it seems now that someone has contaminated it, apparently.

Fisherman

How is the speech relevant or a defense?

1. You are a member of JW

2. JW elders have jurisdiction over you.

3. JW have a code of conduct that all JW must follow

4 You were being accused of violating the JW code of conduct. If you want to be a JW you need to try to live by the code.

5. A defense is showing you didn’t break the code or mitigating why you did. Your speech doesn’t do that, it challenges JW. That is not a defense. If you don’t believe in JW religion start your own. JW are not going to change because you don’t like JW anymore.

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The currently missing 'Titan' submarine. What do you think?

by SydBarrett in

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any opinions are just speculation, but my guess, being morbid, is that there was not a hull breach and implosion (although that would have been the most merciful fate for them), but instead the amateur level of building this thing meant that it lost power and communication and got itself tangled in the titanic's wreckage or is sitting on the actual seabed with no way to release ballast to resurface.

terrifying.

what's your gut feeling?

Fisherman

could've built the Titan

Nahh. Too expensive and too heavy and not doable. The hull must have been built with a steel alloy or at least titanium. My guess without doing the math is a hull 7+ inches thick, seamless with no windows. When I read carbon fiber??????!!!!!!!!!! I could not believe it. Without doing much thinking who in his right mind would go to the bottom of the ocean in carbon fiber. Don’t these billionaires have google?

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Leaked. Nov 6th Secret Boxes

by Beth Sarim in

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self-aware npc has an upload that the ""top-secret"' elders only secret boxes is a drum roll here......a new brochure.....ta dahhhh🤪.

i mean how more dramatic can we get..

Fisherman

likely change.

Not saying much. Want people to conclude that it will change without knowing anything, so it is only a guess. Who knows?

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How Do You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i believe this list which many of us worked on needs to see the light of day again...and added to if possible.. you know you are in the wrong religion:1. when the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....

"do you believe in the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed in brooklyn in 1919?"2.

when you will be refused baptism if: a. you don't believe jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bc (whereas all non-jw scholars, all encyclopedias and all history books say this event took place in 587 bc.)b.

Fisherman

Disgraceful, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Their children smile at you.

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How Do You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i believe this list which many of us worked on needs to see the light of day again...and added to if possible.. you know you are in the wrong religion:1. when the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....

"do you believe in the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed in brooklyn in 1919?"2.

when you will be refused baptism if: a. you don't believe jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bc (whereas all non-jw scholars, all encyclopedias and all history books say this event took place in 587 bc.)b.

Fisherman

If the children were going to grow up and enslave you. Or if you were enslaved by their parents and you prayed to God. Would you want relief or not?

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How Do You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i believe this list which many of us worked on needs to see the light of day again...and added to if possible.. you know you are in the wrong religion:1. when the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....

"do you believe in the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed in brooklyn in 1919?"2.

when you will be refused baptism if: a. you don't believe jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bc (whereas all non-jw scholars, all encyclopedias and all history books say this event took place in 587 bc.)b.

Fisherman

Having 'seen' the Father's child killing atrocities in the Old Testament

Vengance was not proper when pharoh killed firstborn of Israel?

“However, Samuel said: “Just as your sword has bereaved women of children, so your mother will be most bereaved among women.” With that Samuel hacked Aʹgag to pieces before Jehovah at Gilʹgal.” —“Vengeance is mine I will repay.”

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How Do You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i believe this list which many of us worked on needs to see the light of day again...and added to if possible.. you know you are in the wrong religion:1. when the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....

"do you believe in the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed in brooklyn in 1919?"2.

when you will be refused baptism if: a. you don't believe jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bc (whereas all non-jw scholars, all encyclopedias and all history books say this event took place in 587 bc.)b.

Fisherman

How do you know when you are in the right religion?

If Mr. Ed talks back.