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  Anyone know what this sculpture is of the "torture stake?"

  by charity7 in

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  hey guys!

  i'm new on this site and am a non jw here married to a jw.

  my husband's family are active members and they daily post articles on facebook from jw.org which i know is meant for me to see and read.

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  “Just like Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, the son of man must also be lifted up.” —No cross beam.

  Just like nehushtan was idolized, so is Jesus.
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  Moral responsibility.

  by nicolaou in

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  no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.

  please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.

  a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!

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  DD,

  They will take your land and your living from you and your children and legally give it to your enemies and their children and throw you in prison with vermin and make you a mockery and a slave So you you pray to God and he takes action. “ Be gentle with the baby bed bugs, God because my blood legally belongs to them.”

  God will wipe out everything that is oppressing you and bless you and your children because he loves you. Or you can have it your way. Don’t pray for relief.
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  Moral responsibility.

  by nicolaou in

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  no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.

  please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.

  a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!

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  but allows children to die or commands followers to kill “innocent” children that just happen to be born in another tribe isn’t all-loving…

  You got to look at the whole picture. For example, You love and protect your daughter but you also let people live and do whatever they want. But if they cross over your fence, you are going to pray to God to stop them. And he means business.
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  Moral responsibility.

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
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  no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.

  please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.

  a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!

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  Proves, not assumes.

  There is no such proof that humans evolved from lower organisms.

  If you can't see how love evolved you are blind.

  It can be argued that the application of love or justice are social constructs but they exist on their own. Neither did truth and logic evolve.
  
  
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  Moral responsibility.

  by nicolaou in

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  no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.

  please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.

  a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!

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  Morality is a product of evolution

  Horsefeathers. First because false premise assumes evolution and because substances such as justice, love, kindness, etc., exist on their own and didn’t evolve.
  
  
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  R & F JW's ARE agents of the org....

  by BoogerMan in

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  ....despite the cult's denials.. w51 6/15 p. 378 par.

  23 the spirit, the organization, and the word - his theocratic organization recognizes your authority from his word, the bible.

  so it uses you as one of its representatives in the field and it co-operates with you, supplies your needs, and renders you assistance..

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  Not legally.
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  Confirmed: CO Discourages Zoom

  by XBEHERE in

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  i can confirm that the co during one of his service talks stated that zoom is a provision for elderly, infirmed, as well as people who might need it on occasion due to health reasons, otherwise you are expected to be in person at meetings and in the ministry.

  this had to come down from the top.

  maybe they do not want to put it in a gb update or broadcast since that would be too public i suppose.

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  there has been no letter to the Elders in the U.S. that states to discourage zoom

  Listen what is said from the platform, though.
  
  
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  Moral responsibility.

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.

  please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.

  a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!

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  But you don't. You watch as the little boy falls onto the tracks and is pulverised by 185 tonnes of metal.

  You want God to intervene only when you like it. That ain’t the way they cut the cookie:

  ”On the day that I take action.” —Mal 4:3

  God ain’t running the show at present. That’s what the Bible is about: Armageddon, the resurrection, etc. In the meantime, painfully, there is nothing you can do. In the meantime humanity is fighting to stop it with technology and medical science.

  I see how most people even on this forum find a person guilty upon hearing an accusation. You gotta listen to the defense.

  What I find most painful and devastating is a child’s joyful laughter and smile in his innocence . Life is so painful and cruel and one feels so helpless like the catcher in the rye. Imagine seeing someone deaf or blind or a devastated bereaved parent and having the power to help.
  
  
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  How did you pass the time when the Kingdom Hall meetings became boring and repetitive/

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  another boring and repetitive ''watchtower study.

  '' all the articles are about the ''faithful and discreet slave.''.

  for whatever reason, you tolerate this for years.

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  He looked interested. He asked in a sincere way

  Magnum, I enjoy reading your posts.

  If you were an elder, you know that seeming sincerity may disguise investigation. He will go the the body and report about you. The intention is good, to help you if you need spiritual help.Then again maybe he is sincere and won’t do that.

  Dont you realize that other JW too perceive that something is wrong: WT said the end would come in the 1914 generation. It didn’t. There is also a new younger class of anointed. There is no shortage of anointed for the gov body. One would figure that only a lingering very old anointed would be left but the gb is getting younger all the time. And other things. But JW experience a real relationship with God and they still experience it inside JW religion which cannot be invalidated by the perceived wrongs. This relationship with God trumps everything else.
  
  
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  My defense speech before the judicial committee

  by Disfellowshipped-Brother in

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  2. experiences

  dear brothers!.

  we have gathered here because, according to your claims, i have apostatized, and as elders, it is your duty to maintain the purity of the flock.

  it seems now that someone has contaminated it, apparently.

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  But it is, nonetheless, an attempt to defend oneself from an accusation.

  You want to win an argument. I’m not wasting anymore time. I’ve made my point. You can bring a pink elephant to Court and call it whatever you like.