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Do You Think Trump Is Done?
by minimus in
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certain forces appear to be trying to make sure donald trump never runs for president again.

some republicans are clearly abandoning trump and of course the democratic press has been saying trump is done!

is trump’s goose cooked?
Fisherman

The blunder Trump made was not condemning the “insurrection” which resulted in the loss of lives. That looks bad on him. I would say for that reason alone. People see through the impeachment and criminal prosecution and classified docs and don’t care about that and would vote for himfrom him from behind his jail cell —if not for the loss of lives because of the insurrection. I would even say that had the insurrection not resulted in loss of lives, people would not care about the insurrection and would still vote for him.
I think that he will not win the next election if he runs but again it also depends on who else is running.
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Anthony Morris III demoted to Great Crowd!
by Vanderhoven7 in
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well, that is my prediction for 2024 anyway!

hey, if watchtower can speculate..... https://youtu.be/dn8askhhwkw.
Fisherman

What is it about the secrecy of AM111 no longer being a GB member ? and why ?
I don’t think, I could be wrong, WT published the reasons for previous gb removal either, or even the reason for any DF nowadays. It it has to do with conduct that involves a second party other than self, the reason leaks out.
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Anthony Morris III demoted to Great Crowd!
by Vanderhoven7 in
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well, that is my prediction for 2024 anyway!

hey, if watchtower can speculate..... https://youtu.be/dn8askhhwkw.
Fisherman

What is hard to understand is how Jesus’s FDS can be removed with the human push of a button or even appointed.
It was easier to understand that mysteriously a person is anointed by God thereby appointed by God as FDS.
Since WT changed the definition of FDS, the definition is subject to change. Which means that the WT definition of FDS can change again.
It does make sense though that in the 1 Century although everybody was anointed, there was only a handful of decision makers having authority over everybody aka a governing body or the Apostles. They were the ones writing the Bible under inspiration, etc.
Sleepy now. May add more in another post.
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double standard
by enoughisenough in
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i was thinking about the henrietta ??

trust that the org has with the questionable stock in warfare, entertainment, and tobacco among others.

why wouldn't they get rid of all of that?
Fisherman

Thanks for the info, Jeff.
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Anthony Morris III demoted to Great Crowd!
by Vanderhoven7 in
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well, that is my prediction for 2024 anyway!

hey, if watchtower can speculate..... https://youtu.be/dn8askhhwkw.
Fisherman

Since he is no longer gb, he is no longer faithful and discreet slave according to latest JW belief on the FDS.
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I wonder whatever became of the JW 'don't masturbate' guy?
by SydBarrett in
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this guy: how embarrassing.it's also sad that when it was being filmed, no one thought to tell him "you don't have to over do it..they'll get the point.."now he lives forever in internet infamy.

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Fisherman

I think the word is funny: Someone baiting a fish hook over and over again that he is a master at it.
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New Version of NWT
by NotFormer in
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how does it compare to the old one?.

has anything changed much?.

how do i get a copy?
Fisherman

Old is more emotional and poetic and ironic, words have more flavor and cross references are very allusory to the interpretation of prophecy .
New is more focused on the translated meaning of the prima facie text. To your seed I will give the land is now translated to your offspring I will give the land, for example. Jehovah himself would take me up is now translated take me in which sounds less affectionate to me. And other changes as scholar pointed out in another thread. You also won’t find much cross references suggesting interpretation of prophecy for example the old cross references “ A ruin, ruin, a ruin” in Ezekiel with “never be brought to ruin” in Daniel are not linked in the new. They are unlinked. The new is a more refined translation. There are a lot of other differences.
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Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?
by Fisherman in
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take for example revelation 21: 10. .

“….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

here john sees something happening, action.
Fisherman

For example, the Bible is very poetic and says one thing and implies another. Jesus told his disciples in the 1 century to go and make disciples of all the nations and that he was with them until the end of the world but what he also meant or was implying was that (so it is today) Jesus is with his disciples today as they preach and then the end will come, the end of the world or the conclusion of this system of thing. So he returned in 1914 and invisibly with his disciples until when the son of man is revealed.
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Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?
by Fisherman in
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take for example revelation 21: 10. .

“….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

here john sees something happening, action.
Fisherman

Everyone will know. We won't have to say, "hey, did you know this means Jesus is present?"
Jesus told the Pharisees: “ The kingdom of God is in your midst” referring to himself being the elephant in the room. Until finally God unleashed the Roman armies. His contemporaries refused to know and refused to see. “ Where is this promised presence of his. “
Albeit Jesus invisible presence in 1914, it can be argued why 108 years
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At what point, does one become apostate to the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Vanderhoven7 in
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at what point does a jehovah’s witness cease to be a jehovah’s witness?

what if a witness doesn't believe some of the official teachings of the governing body but remains silent on these subjects to avoid being disfellowshipped?

is he or she an apostate to the faith?
Fisherman

To JW, after you are adjudicated by a JC.