Obviously, if Jesus was not who he claimed he was: The “Messiah” and/or the Gospels are myths, then there is no point in considering anything at all about Jesus or the so called New Testament but given the gospels are true, the miracles, his resurrection, God’s voice from heaven, that is striking proof that Jesus is the Messiah.
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The Messianic Prophecies and Their Fulfillment in Jesus
by aqwsed12345 inthe belief in the messiah, which has lived in the collective consciousness of humanity since ancient times, became completely obscured among the gentiles, and only remained with the jewish people, who were later chosen by god, as the prophecies of the prophets kept it alive.
there was only one great promise in the old testament from god, which awaited fulfillment!
only one great desire was there in the old testament on the part of man, longing for satisfaction.
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The Messianic Prophecies and Their Fulfillment in Jesus
by aqwsed12345 inthe belief in the messiah, which has lived in the collective consciousness of humanity since ancient times, became completely obscured among the gentiles, and only remained with the jewish people, who were later chosen by god, as the prophecies of the prophets kept it alive.
there was only one great promise in the old testament from god, which awaited fulfillment!
only one great desire was there in the old testament on the part of man, longing for satisfaction.
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I the CGS, Jesus’s message about the end of Judaism centered on Kohanic Temple worship is clear: “
“The hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father.” and “Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him.
Change was coming and change came: Sadly, God abandoned the Jewish nation to the Roman armies bringing the end to the Jewish era.
“Because the days will come upon you when your enemies will build around you a fortification of pointed stakes and will encircle you and besiege you from every side. They will dash you and your children within you to the ground, and they will not leave a stone upon a stone in you, because you did not discern the time of your being inspected.” —Read Josephus
Till this day nobody can prove they are a descendant of the 12 tribes or of Aaron. ( although modern dna tests cannot distinguish Arab and Jewish ancient paternal lineage they can however distinguish between Jewish and Arabic dna based on dna similarities of Jews.)True, elite survivors of 70CE reorganized in Javneh and created a Talmudic Judaism which is the mainstream modern Judaism practicing rabbinical Judaism of Talmudic interpretation of the pentateuch which is mostly cultural, many “Jews” being atheists ir agnostics. There is nothing remarkable about modern Judaism and it’s followers except the genetic link to the great Patriarchs the Bible.
Interesting, temple based Judaism ordained by God came to its end in Jesus’s day. Coincidence?
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The Messianic Prophecies and Their Fulfillment in Jesus
by aqwsed12345 inthe belief in the messiah, which has lived in the collective consciousness of humanity since ancient times, became completely obscured among the gentiles, and only remained with the jewish people, who were later chosen by god, as the prophecies of the prophets kept it alive.
there was only one great promise in the old testament from god, which awaited fulfillment!
only one great desire was there in the old testament on the part of man, longing for satisfaction.
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Why do people post so long posts? Not going to read so much..Also, takes uo so much space in a thread and spend a lot of time scrolling down past so much.
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Do the WTBTS & JW ORG speak in Jehovah's name?
by BoogerMan in(deuteronomy 18:20,22) “‘if any prophet presumptuously speaks a word in my name that i did not command him to speak...that prophet must die.
when the prophet speaks in the name of jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then jehovah did not speak that word.
the prophet spoke it presumptuously.
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WT proclaimed they are guided by God’s Holy Spirit and are the entity that distributes spiritual food sourced from God—I believe.
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Tony Morris replaced - by ANOTHER teleprompter reader!
by BoogerMan inthe whitewashing of tm111 from jw history continues - tending to confirm that he was booted.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ghbhv6961a.
i'm pretty sure the cult got him to sign a nice nda - in exchange for a lifetime residency in the house bought by wt..
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one of the small group of men who are God's channel - his only channel to mankind.
Does wt still teach this gb special communication with God? Please show.
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Aside from the alleged "composite Sign", what is the scriptural evidence for Christ's 1914 presence?
by Vanderhoven7 inmy take is: 1914 is not biblical since no dates are in the bible.
a hodgepodge of scriptures are ingeniously linked together; then stir in about 9 creative assumptions to arrive at a speculative theory on which to base wts authority.. nathan knorr to fred franz.
"there are some things that i know.
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In terms of a date vis-à-vis 1914, what is the scriptural evidence for Jesus’ first coming circa 2 BCE?
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JW Writing Committee has a dilemma with Stephen's prayer
by BoogerMan in(acts 7:59, 60) "and they went on casting stones at stephen as he made appeal* and said: “lord jesus, receive my spirit.” then, bending his knees, he cried out with a strong voice: “jehovah, do not charge this sin against them.” and after saying this he fell asleep [in death].
" *or, “invocation; prayer.” nwt reference bible).
w59 2/1 p. 96 - jesus had taught his followers that the father authorized him to raise others to life.
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Not at all see Marginal References on Acts 7:60i n the NWT Study Bible. —Notwithstanding that WT might have had different explanations of the verse in the past as SBF also explains.
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Aside from the alleged "composite Sign", what is the scriptural evidence for Christ's 1914 presence?
by Vanderhoven7 inmy take is: 1914 is not biblical since no dates are in the bible.
a hodgepodge of scriptures are ingeniously linked together; then stir in about 9 creative assumptions to arrive at a speculative theory on which to base wts authority.. nathan knorr to fred franz.
"there are some things that i know.
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The 7x application to 1914 and JW fulfilling Bible prophecy. Never before in human history has the meaning of the entire Bible been solved.
“As for you, Daniel, keep the words secret, and seal up the book until the time of the end. Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant.”
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Are we living in the LAST DAYS?
by Fisherman inare we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into armageddon?
if this is true then how long should it take?
as jw saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 ad as a parallel.
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some living would not see death before the end came.
He was referring in poetic language to his transfiguration a few days later and possibly about John seeing the realization of the Bible fulfilled when John experienced writing the book of Revelation. Those men experienced it empirically. And don’t forget the realization of the destruction of Jerusalem that just so happened to his contemporaries just as Jesus predicted it would, from his definition of “shikkutz” to the Romans dashing Jewish children to pieces, the destruction of the Temple and more. Very real and I’m convinced.
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Church buys GEICO Woodbury property for $27M
by Rattigan350 inhttps://libn.com/2023/01/09/church-buys-geico-woodbury-property-for-27m/.
after a previous sale fell through, geico has sold its sprawling woodbury property for $27 million.
the buyer for the 236,365-square-foot office building on 20 acres at 750 woodbury road is the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses.
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Fisherman
the new owner of the property would be tax exempt
There is more than one way to skin a cat.