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Have you let go of waiting for Armageddon?

by Fisherman in

18 years ago

although, after experiencing many disappointments and failed dates, i cannot let go and i cannot dismiss the expectation that god will intervene somehow.

i still hold on, hoping that maybe i will not experience sheol and neither will some of my loved ones.

how about you?

18 years ago

Fisherman 18 years ago

Blondie, I feel the same way you do regarding killing children and adults too by a loving God that recieved payment for such lives. There is a dilema. One the one hand, the Bible is wriiten in foreign languages. I know various languages, and I understand how difficult it is to translate idiomatic expressions and even some plain expressions have no equivalent translation even though one can interpret suchexpressions and explain, but what is so difficult about understanding the Bible, (and I know the Bible, not only from a jw perspective but also from jewish and objective viewpoints) is that the Bible hardly says what it means. The Bible, I think, is a poetic, ironic, riddle and puzzzle and there is even room for not interpreting the Bible as rules for Christians and contemporary people of the non Bible era. Hence, in my opinion one cannot be absolutely certain about any seemed Bible teaching. On the other hand, the Bible has a common thread through each book tying everything together, making the student conclude emotionally and rationally, if you know what I mean, that the Bible will be fulfilled and the the past events did happen.

Wt logic though about Adam and Eve and living forever on earth if not for sin makes sense to me. Blondie, if the reward is after death, then why does the Bible not clearly say so? It also makes sense to me that God created humans to live and not to die. Killing people eternally, or frying them eternally doesnt make sense to me either. To me, it is a dilema. The Bible makes sense and the Bible does not make sense.

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Question for JWS and EXJWS

by Fisherman in

18 years ago

1 do you now reject all of the wts teachings and doctrines?

2 what doctrines do you still believe in?

3 what doctrines have you stopped believing in?

18 years ago

Fisherman 18 years ago

1 Do you now reject all of the wts teachings and doctrines?

2 What doctrines do you still believe in?

3 What doctrines have you stopped believing in?

4 What doctrines are you not sure about?

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Have you let go of waiting for Armageddon?

by Fisherman in

18 years ago

although, after experiencing many disappointments and failed dates, i cannot let go and i cannot dismiss the expectation that god will intervene somehow.

i still hold on, hoping that maybe i will not experience sheol and neither will some of my loved ones.

how about you?

18 years ago

Fisherman 18 years ago

Although, after experiencing many disappointments and failed dates, I cannot let go and I cannot dismiss the expectation that God will intervene somehow. I still hold on, hoping that maybe I will not experience sheol and neither will some of my loved ones. How about you?

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What Do YOU Think Is The BIGGEST Revelation That Has Gotten JWs Exposed???

by minimus in

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18 years ago

for me, it was the un debacle.

their association and weak retreat was priceless.

after that, silentlambs ranks right up there.. of course, if it were not for ray franz, many of us would've never even thought about leaving!.

18 years ago

Fisherman 18 years ago

The INTERNET, particularly the websites that quoted from the older publications. Also, RF's testimony. RF was a solid bro. He was branded apostate. It is hard to believe that such a man would turn against the wts. Why? In all fairness, his book merits considering.

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Who is the most influential figure in the history of human civilization?

by Blueblades in

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18 years ago

wherever you stand on the god question, or, think you do, i believe god is the most influential figure in the history of human civilization.

not just any god, but the god that created adam and eve; the god of abraham, the god of the jews; the god of the christians; and the god of islam.

what sort of character does he have?

18 years ago

Fisherman 18 years ago

According to the Bible, the Satan is the most influential figure because 1/3 and more of the angels were influenced by him and the great majority of humanity has is and will be influenced by him resulting in the destruction of "MANY", in contrast with the "few" that are influenced by Jesus resulting in salvation.

However, I think that most influential human person in the history of human civilization is Jesus Christ.

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"Hey buddy, can you spare a dime?"

by gumb in

18 years ago

"hey buddy, can you spare a dime?".

we can all help make the world a better place to live in without even involving our purse/wallet, and requiring only a tiny amount of time.

these 'dime time' acts of kindness to our fellow human beings can help reduce stress in others and therefore contribute to a happier world.

18 years ago

Fisherman 18 years ago

I usually give to anyone asking for a small handout ONCE unless I detect or suspect that the person is a professional beggar. I don't not give to religious solicitors or other organized contribution seekers. If I notice that a person is handicapped then I will give most of the time. I really don't care what the beggar will do with the money (all things considered). I enjoy helping someone in need.

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BREAKING NEWS: 16:.02: FOSTER MOTHER GUILTY OF ABUSE

by fokyc in

18 years ago

http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/displaynode.jsp?nodeid=139760&command=displaycontent&sourcenode=139586&contentpk=16917608&folderpk=80785&pnodeid=139317.

date : 20.03.07. foster mother eunice spry has been found guilty of subjecting children in her care to two decades of horrific abuse.. the 62-year-old, from tewkesbury, beat them, fed them rat droppings, stopped them sleeping and rubbed their faces with sandpaper.

she thrust sticks down their throats when they misbehaved and made them eat dog food.. one daughter was forced to use a wheelchair for four years even though she was perfectly able to walk.. doctors, teachers and neighbours raised constant concerns about spry's treatment of the children but nothing was ever done by social services.. the catalogue of abuse only came to light when one of the children went to the jehovah's witness elders at the church the family attended.. spry, from tewkesbury, was found guilty of 26 charges of cruelty after a three week trial at bristol crown court.

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Fisherman 18 years ago

Poor children when natural parents sexually abuse them and then perhaps wind up in Foster care with a nut like this.

I would like to know more about this crazy woman's involvement in the cong. Any more info? Did the kids go to meetings? Did she go out in service, etc.

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The child abuse dilema?

by Fisherman in

18 years ago

it is felt in my opinion, that there is no one more dispicable than a person who sexually abuses a child.

such behaviour brings outrage towards the abuser and feelings of compassion and pity towards the child victitim to individuals such as me, who feel that children should be protected and guided, so that they can prosper and flourish.

helping such a victimized child begins with rescuing him or her child from the sicko and punishing that monster severly so that potential molestors fear and never start, and active ones stop, hopefully, and it also gives compensatory justice to the victims, the child and the devastated parents.. sadly though, many child abusers are parents themselves or other close relatives of the child, indivuduals whom the child loves and trusts.

18 years ago

Fisherman 18 years ago

How can I get rid of that internet web page on my screen name section when I post a topic?

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The child abuse dilema?

by Fisherman in

18 years ago

it is felt in my opinion, that there is no one more dispicable than a person who sexually abuses a child.

such behaviour brings outrage towards the abuser and feelings of compassion and pity towards the child victitim to individuals such as me, who feel that children should be protected and guided, so that they can prosper and flourish.

helping such a victimized child begins with rescuing him or her child from the sicko and punishing that monster severly so that potential molestors fear and never start, and active ones stop, hopefully, and it also gives compensatory justice to the victims, the child and the devastated parents.. sadly though, many child abusers are parents themselves or other close relatives of the child, indivuduals whom the child loves and trusts.

18 years ago

Fisherman 18 years ago

It is felt in my opinion, that there is no one more dispicable than a person who sexually abuses a child. Such behaviour brings outrage towards the abuser and feelings of compassion and pity towards the child victitim to individuals such as me, who feel that children should be protected and guided, so that they can prosper and flourish. Helping such a victimized child begins with rescuing him or her child from the sicko and punishing that monster severly so that potential molestors fear and never start, and active ones stop, hopefully, and it also gives compensatory justice to the victims, the child and the devastated parents.

Sadly though, many child abusers are parents themselves or other close relatives of the child, indivuduals whom the child loves and trusts. How can such doomed children be helped? What should be done with the child's relative?

How can a loving parent protect their children from such relatives and also from others so that the child never has to suffer the tragedy of child abuse? What do you think?

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"Hey buddy, can you spare a dime?"

by gumb in

18 years ago

"hey buddy, can you spare a dime?".

we can all help make the world a better place to live in without even involving our purse/wallet, and requiring only a tiny amount of time.

these 'dime time' acts of kindness to our fellow human beings can help reduce stress in others and therefore contribute to a happier world.

18 years ago

Fisherman 18 years ago

Some years back, a group of scientist went to Africa on an excavation. One scientinst noticed that the natives were very keen shooters of projectiles, arrows and spears. He noticed one native shooting spears at very small obejects,( about the size of a quarter). One of the (african) american scientists approached the native and asked him; "Hey brother, can you spear a dime?

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