Fisherman
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Evolution is a Fact #21 - Footprints in the Sand
by cofty inback in the pliocene epoch a volcano called sadiman erupted depositing a layer of ash across the landscape.
some time later it rained at laetoli in modern day tanzania turning the ash into wet cement.
birds and animals walked across the cement, then sadiman erupted again sealing the footprints under a second layer of ash.. fast-forward to 1976. a team of paleontologists led by mary leakey are searching for human origins on the serengeti plain when andrew hill ducks out the way of elephant dung being thrown at him by a colleague.
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The impressions in the sand, even if assumed were made long ago, do not prove that they were made by early semi humans. -
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This thread is for proof that God exists
by juandefiero inhowever, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?
if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.
(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.
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That is why the comment that scientists have "a better understanding of reality" is ignorant and stupid.
I agree that the comment reveals that the commentator has a flagrant disregard for logic -and here is why: The statement assumes that reality is limited to mean 'the measurement of the physical universe and how it works'. -
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This thread is for proof that God exists
by juandefiero inhowever, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?
if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.
(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.
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Chemists seem to believe in God the most for some strange reason.
Chemist find it science fiction to believe that organic molecules (methane for example) synthesized life from nothing.
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How did you feel when they eliminated the Con. Book Study?
by Freeandclear inyears ago when i was "in" i loved the book study.
it was my favorite meeting by far.
mainly because it was a small group.
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I felt at the time that the book study required a separate day , not to cram everything into one meeting night., but there was no other way because book study had been determined to be to be part of the JW weekly program and because people do not have the time they had 40 years ago to go to 3 separate meetings a week. So the choice was either to cram another lesson into the meeting or go to another meeting on another night. Since it aint a longer meeting wiith BS included and you dont have to go 3 times a week but only two it turns out to be favorable to everyone.
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I have a question.
by DATA-DOG inaccording to jwism, god didn't cause suffering, he just allowed it.
wow, that's really, really, dumb.
to help humans out, jeehoobidoob provided the ransom.
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I have a question.
by DATA-DOG inaccording to jwism, god didn't cause suffering, he just allowed it.
wow, that's really, really, dumb.
to help humans out, jeehoobidoob provided the ransom.
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Stockholm Syndrome ,Fisherman
Both you and I will see and know when the time comes but in the meantime all you've got is your view and I have mine.
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I have a question.
by DATA-DOG inaccording to jwism, god didn't cause suffering, he just allowed it.
wow, that's really, really, dumb.
to help humans out, jeehoobidoob provided the ransom.
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Convinced by what exactly? GAWOL
Too many things. I am not telling you what to concluded. But I figure that if I feel love, compassion, empathy, kindness, justice,pity, and just as DD said, if I had the power to bring relief relief to every creature, I would so therefore God who made me must also feel the same that I do.
He gave me life and the ability to experience joy and pleasure and comfort and happiness and satisfaction and I figure that I am happy to be alive inspite of the suffering I also experience and see. I reason that just as I want to end all suffering, and the joy that I experience when I help people and and every creature that I can, God feels the same way I do and even more and I trust that he will see to it that justice is done. Other things too, but you can see things the way you see them. I am just telling you how I feel about about God.
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I have a question.
by DATA-DOG inaccording to jwism, god didn't cause suffering, he just allowed it.
wow, that's really, really, dumb.
to help humans out, jeehoobidoob provided the ransom.
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One more question.DD
If your question(s) are not rhetorical and you truly want correct answers to your questions then you should allow a person that knows to respond to you, not someone that is faking it or someone that is only guessing.
If you woke up tomorrow with "God" powers, what would you do? Would you wait to save everyone? Seriously, what would you wait for? Is proving a point through inaction that causes unimaginable suffering,
The substance of all of your questions can be summed up as: Being Almighty, why does God allow suffering? and you figure that Almighty God should have prevented all UNIMAGINABLE suffering by doing things differently. You also figure that God allows suffering so that he can prove some point important to Him and being the Almighty God that He is, He should have figured something different or better so that no creature would have to suffer so much. (Sounds reasonable, trust me, I know what unimaginable suffering feels like.)
Seems logical to conclude that the Almighty knows all of the options and choices that He has to solve the problem He is tackling besides allowing suffering. Reality is though that He decided to allow human suffering for his good reasons even though our senses cannot understand how any reason could possibly justify suffering.
If the Almighty turns out to be bad, there is nothing we can do to change reality. I am convinced though that he is a loving God. I choose to trust him for better or for worse. In all fairness to Him, He should be allowed the time to answer his side of the issue.
Some of the questions you ask though, DD, challenge reality itself. You seem to be asking: "Why is reality the way it is?", "Why don't we have fins besides lungs so that we don't drown?" Why should foods that are bad for us taste so good and not the other way around?", "Why do we have the God that we have?", Things should be different with a different God" Sound like a rejection of God and his gift of reality. Like someone telling his father that loves him so much; "Dad, why do you have to be my father, I do not want you and I do not want any of your gifts. I want something different." I would feel hurt if that is what my son wanted. But that is something that cannot be changed.
The almighty decided to allow suffering for his good reasons. Lovers of God trust that father knows best.
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What's the point?
by punkofnice ini mean, i don't want to be miserable or anything, but what's the bloody point of it all?.
since i left the watchtower cult, i have come to realise that god cannot possibly exist...and if a god exists...god is indifferent to humankind as the least.. in 100 years time i'll be gone.
kaput.
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people will answer. Steve
No point at all if God does not answer. That was my point
'communicating with God' and 'a horse talking back' has silly written all over it.
"Talking horse" not only alludes to the expression: "from the horse's mouth" but also infers that God talks back! -silly as it may seem to you.
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What's the point?
by punkofnice ini mean, i don't want to be miserable or anything, but what's the bloody point of it all?.
since i left the watchtower cult, i have come to realise that god cannot possibly exist...and if a god exists...god is indifferent to humankind as the least.. in 100 years time i'll be gone.
kaput.
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Fisherman
what's the bloody point of it all?
Saw your photo. You are a likable dude. You should like yourself too.
The point of it all is justice.
As you experience and everyone else too, life is not everything. You have heard expressions like "it is better to die on your feet than live to live your knees, etc. You are not alone in the "suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.. whips and scorns of the oppressor's wrong.."
Also, mental depression can make things seem worse than they really are.
You need to have the courage to let go and rely on God. You should be able to communicate with God and I do not mean talking to a wall. When you realize that the horse talks back, you will see the point.
Hang on to life, poi.
That is how I see it.