Posts by Fisherman

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This Is What the Oldest Known Household Objects Look Like

by Tahoe in

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friends

this-is-what-the-oldest-known-household-objects-look-like!

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thought these were pretty cool!

Fossilized foot prints, how do they explain it away?

by Crazyguy in

so there have been many sets of fossilized human footprints found in africa, italy, europe, britain and new mexico.

these foot prints are thought to be anywhere from 20,000 to 2 million years old.

so what do christians and jws do to try to explain these away.

Fisherman

These foot prints are thought to be anywhere from 20,000 to 2 million years old.

Actually, trillions of years or even older. The footprints "are thought" to have existed before the universe was formed. And nothing caused them - according to Krauss.

Science can estimate the age of the substrate where the impression was formed.

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Great Tribulation and Trump

by TakeOffTheCrown in

please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

Fisherman

Are you questioning doctrine and prophecy? O_O

hmmm. No, but I wonder about interpretations about them.

jwleaks trump trump trump

hmmmmm!

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Great Tribulation and Trump

by TakeOffTheCrown in

please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

Fisherman

and target JWs specifically. -Schnell

How do you figure since wt sold them their sweet property?

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Great Tribulation and Trump

by TakeOffTheCrown in

please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

Given WT interpretation of the GT, the GT does not depend on dt, but on a generation that will not "pass way" "until all these things occur," coupled with a preaching work and an invisible kingdom ruling for a century + 2 years -according to wt. In relation to wt interpretation of the gt, something must give now with or without dt. Another 10 years of preaching the proclamation of 1914 and an invisible kingdom while everyone from 1914 is dead and humanity hoping only in technology and human intelligence, does not appear on the horizon for wt. Something must give, something must happen, or something must change -and I do not mean DT deployments to change the USA.

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Bethel Warwick Address?

by TheWonderofYou in

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friends

what is the correct address of bethel warwick.

is this the house no.

1 of gods kingdom drive?

Fisherman

18 Pictures of the property here

ROLF

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Sheep and the Goats - The Light Gets Brighter

by nmthinker in

perhaps some of you remember a new understanding of the sheep and the goats in the epic march 2015 wt study edition - specifically the article "loyally supporting christ's brothers".. while this article was studied many months ago, it was instrumental in helping me wake up.

during my study of the 2015 article i recalled that we had just revised our understanding of the sheep and the goats a few years ago and this caused me to research the real progression of the jw understanding of this parable.

i put the results of my research in an excel spreadsheet.. .

Fisherman

Do you not see the parable better explained as a timeless enjoinder to compassion ? -Prologos

No, because the setting for the parable is: 31 “When the Son of man comes ......

......instead from benefiting the least, it is benefiting the elite........... -Prologos

That is only an accusation and an opinion.

The identity of Jesus' brothers in the related parable should not only be a a view since salvation depends upon supporting Jesus' brothers according to said parable. So, who then are Christs brothers? (Galatians 3:26) . . .YOU are all, in fact, sons of God through YOUR faith in Christ Jesus. . .(Galatians 3:29) . . .Moreover, if YOU belong to Christ, YOU are really Abraham’s seed, heirs with reference to a promise. Logically, Jesus and all those that make up the see d are brothers.

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Sheep and the Goats - The Light Gets Brighter

by nmthinker in

perhaps some of you remember a new understanding of the sheep and the goats in the epic march 2015 wt study edition - specifically the article "loyally supporting christ's brothers".. while this article was studied many months ago, it was instrumental in helping me wake up.

during my study of the 2015 article i recalled that we had just revised our understanding of the sheep and the goats a few years ago and this caused me to research the real progression of the jw understanding of this parable.

i put the results of my research in an excel spreadsheet.. .

Fisherman

nmt, thanks for the chart and your research which shows the changes of wt interpretation of the parable throughout the years which has led to the interesting discussions on this thread. Appreciated.

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Sheep and the Goats - The Light Gets Brighter

by nmthinker in

perhaps some of you remember a new understanding of the sheep and the goats in the epic march 2015 wt study edition - specifically the article "loyally supporting christ's brothers".. while this article was studied many months ago, it was instrumental in helping me wake up.

during my study of the 2015 article i recalled that we had just revised our understanding of the sheep and the goats a few years ago and this caused me to research the real progression of the jw understanding of this parable.

i put the results of my research in an excel spreadsheet.. .

Fisherman

I read Jesus' words to mean: help on the personal, humanitarian level, to the most helpless, sick, lowly and destitute;..

In Jesus day, Jesus "brothers" refers to only those related to Jesus in the faith: his Apostles and disciples who were carrying out their assigned ministry-that is what being a Christian was all about back then. Similarly today, Jesus brothers should at least mean only those that Jesus recognizes as his followers and especially those that are of the heavenly calling mentioned in the scriptures I cited in my previous post.

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Sheep and the Goats - The Light Gets Brighter

by nmthinker in

perhaps some of you remember a new understanding of the sheep and the goats in the epic march 2015 wt study edition - specifically the article "loyally supporting christ's brothers".. while this article was studied many months ago, it was instrumental in helping me wake up.

during my study of the 2015 article i recalled that we had just revised our understanding of the sheep and the goats a few years ago and this caused me to research the real progression of the jw understanding of this parable.

i put the results of my research in an excel spreadsheet.. .

Fisherman

Math 12:50 defined His Brothers very broadly, saying: everyone that does the will of my father is my brother- Prologos

In the context on Math 12:50, it just seems to me that Jesus is only referring to spiritual relationship instead of blood relatives in a general sense although it would be also accurate to say that given wt teaching on the heavenly class of Christians, all Christians back then were Jesus' anointed brothers -I could be wrong. But neither does Mathew 12:20 invalidate what you state nor the possibility that in the aforementioned parable Jesus is referring to his brothers in the context of Hebrews 3:1, Galatians 3:15-16,26,29. At the very least wt theology defining a heavenly class and earthly class is possible.

In my post that you are referring to, I was not showing that wt interpretation of said parable is correct, but that given that it is, it is also internally consistent.

In the related parable ALL nations refer to Jesus as Lord-even the Jews. This is not because any one of these people standing before Jesus ever believed in Jesus at all, but because the Bible makes it crystal clear that every will see him and will have to acknowledge his authority and in that context they call him Lord. This parable only considers one facet of the basis for judgment, namely actions towards Christ's brothers -there are other facets to also consider. According to this parable though, actions towards Christ's brothers is a requirement for salvation. In his post nmt argues that: how should the so called goats have been required to act towards an entity unidentified to them and therefore in order for wt interpretation of the parable to be consistent, goats must mean jw that do not preach, etc., and does not apply to non-JW because non-jw do not recognize "jw anointed" to mean Christ's brothers. But if that was the case, it should also be the case that all nations forced to stand before Jesus in judgment should be able to argue that they did not know the identity of Jesus either, but the parable does not allow for that excuse. According to the parable, everyone -not just jw- is required to support Jesus' brothers, regardless of what that means .Although nmt linked spreadsheet purporting to show wt changing interpretation of elements in the related parable, such does not change God's requirements for salvation.