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  How to argue with a JW who says the org never said the end in 75

  by dogon in

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  i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.

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  as the appointed F&DS, to stop the brothers from selling their houses,

  Anyone at that time reading the literature and listening to the discourses could only conclude that the FDS believed 1975 was the "finish line."
  
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  Is this another Trump backflip?

  by fulltimestudent in

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  we've seen one backflip.

  crooked hillary became a hard-working woman who deserves the nations praise (in his victory speech);.

  now according to a uk newspaper:.

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  “he will—maybe unintentionally—break laws.”

  Trump's political inexperience is obvious but all he needs to do is to surround himself with experienced politicians that are running the country already - and maybe listen to them, which seems to be the case from his remarks about Obamacare, etc. AS for breaking laws, all people in High Office break laws and get away with it, except when they happen to be an unpopular target -like Trump for instance, I say, give the man a chance. We will see effects soon enough.
  
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  Is this another Trump backflip?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
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  we've seen one backflip.

  crooked hillary became a hard-working woman who deserves the nations praise (in his victory speech);.

  now according to a uk newspaper:.

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  Fisherman

  Most people that voted for Trump know that he said a lot of things with the purpose of getting elected and also know the limits of his power when sitting in the seat of power -but what Trump said reveals his thinking and the direction of his policies when elected and that is one reason why people voted for him. His voters believe that he can only do what he can which is a lot more than what his opponents were going to do. It is very revealing to see what people want and the people voted for the many things TRUMP SAID. If the people did not want the things that Trump said he would do, they would not have voted for him.
  
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

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  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Are you sure you didn't mean Phallacy?

  No, I did not mean Phallus see. I meant that your posted conclusions are false. See for yourself.
  
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  The moon

  by zeb in

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  yes take a look at the moon after 1930h 14th nov. it is the closest the moon is to earth in many years.

  wont be this close for many years more.. use any telescope or binoculars.. wowee..

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  Wow! Thanks for the post. I do not want to miss the event.
  
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Fisherman

  Surely if Satan was cast down, there would be some sort of phenomenon

  How do you know that?

  But , with respect to 1914 as the date that Satan is actually "cast down" to earth (whatever that actually means) as the related scripture states, is a belief, a conclusion sort of speak. A noteworthy statement by Jesus -"I saw Satan falling." - alludes to such an event.
  
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  How to argue with a JW who says the org never said the end in 75

  by dogon in

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  2. beliefs

  i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.

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  Fisherman

  However, you seam to miss the point here. It was the watchtower, and not the JWs that put this thought into the minds of JWs at that time in history.

  WT never said outright that "the end" would come in 1975 but the literature and thinking circa 1975 implied that if it did it, the event would converge with Bible chronology; but the wt also concurrently published in the ASI book that the time of creation of Eve and the end of 6th Creative day was an unknown variable that was a factor affecting any conclusions about 1975.- Fisherman

  My statement is supported by the talk linked by Blondie . Listen to it. The speaker says "possibly" in reference to 1975.
  
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  DJS, your posted oratory is fallacy. - But if you like it......
  
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  How to argue with a JW who says the org never said the end in 75

  by dogon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.

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  Fisherman

  WT never said outright that "the end" would come in 1975 but the literature and thinking circa 1975 implied that if it did it, the event would converge with Bible chronology; but the wt also concurrently published in the ASI book that the time of creation of Eve and the end of 6th Creative day was an unknown variable that was a factor affecting any conclusions about 1975.- Fisherman
  
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Fisherman

  Or perhaps we're just making this up as we go along

  It does not seem at all possible to me because no one could be able to orchestrate all of the elements that fit so perfectly. I am a very skeptical and analytic person and I am convinced -and not because the wt says so.