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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

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  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Fisherman

  fairy tale.

  The horrific destruction of Jerusalem and her escapees and its significance is no myth.
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Fisherman

  Luke 21:25,26 has nothing to do with the parousia

  The referenced verses have to do with the great tribulation also described by the other Gospel writers and more than Jerusalem is involved.( "...and what will be the sign of your parousia...")

  
  

  Van, Rev 7:9,14 are not referring to tribulation in a general sense applying to Christians throughout the ages, but is the same tribulation predicted in the Olivette, having similarities with 70, as generally taught by wt. (And posting the word tribulation in Greek letters and defining it does not show that the related verses are not referring to the same tribulation mentioned in the Olivette. And neither does posting the commentary source. ) Rev 7:1 is a continuation of Rev 6:17 and starting with verse 12 of Rev chapter 6, is referring to an event, the same event also being told in Rev chapter 7, and not tribulation that you describe in a general sense that you also link with Act 14 and Rev 2. That's how I see it, Van.
  
  
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  Jehovah Witness victims of Childhood Sex Abuse - from the state of New York - and non Jehovah Witness victims, along with all supporters

  by Sol Reform in

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  2. child-abuse

  jehovah witness victims of childhood sex abuse - from the state of new york - and non jehovah witness victims, along with all supporters - you're all invited to a press conference and movie screening in support of statute of limitation reform.. .

  press conference and movie screening in support of statute of limitation reform .

  advocates for reform of ny's too-weak childhood .

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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Van compare Rev 7:9 with Rev. 7:14 vis-a- vis with 70. Only a couple of Christians fled in 66, and according to Josephus, also in 66, Jewish merchants also fled in 66 "like rats from a sinking ship" knowing that the Romans would be back. According to Jewish tradition, Rabbi Yochanan Ben Zakai and others came out of the tribulation and reestablished a non Temple based Judaism in Jamnia. None of these guys saw Jesus (every eye will see him) According to the verses I reference from Rev, all survivors from every tribe and nation mentioned in the verses, owe Salvation to Jesus Christ. That did not happen in 70. The surviving "Jamnina" based Jews of 70, owe their salvation to Vespasian - not Jesus- that is what they say.

  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews
  
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Fisherman

  Van, why did you plaster the thread with cut and paste? All you need to do is to provide a link or a reference.

  All the commentary you posted is erroneous interpretations having been debunked by wt commentary.

  Luke 21:25,26. More than the destruction of Jerusalem is involved with the paraousia of Christ. Rev1:7
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Van, do some research on google about nowdays "jewish" dna. Says 25- 55 percent and greater gentile ancestry from a few hundred middle eastern men and broad european nationality non jewish females that such men married and no doubt converted prior to marrying,
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Van, Mathew 24:30 among other verses that entails more than 70.
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Fisherman

  The great tribulation being a one-time,non-repeatable event in history; a fairly local event affecting the Jews (this people) in and around Jerusalem and ultimately leading to their death or dispersion among the nations.

  That is only an erroneous opinion.
  
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Fisherman

  As I stated earlier, it just doesn't fit.

  And then, Jesus said he would return and every eye would see him, and separation of sheep and goats, etc. All these things did not happen in 70. Although the Bible does record that Jesus predicted the destruction of Jerusalem back then, there is no evidence that the gentile times mentioned in Luke ended in 70 CE. In fact, Jerusalem was trampled by the Roman armies - literally - back then. Everything in the Bible points to a culmination, Judgement Day for all nations, not just the Jews.
  
  
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  Elders/Ex-Elders: Question about Blood

  by JWdaughter in

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  2. bible

  after many years of objecting to the wt teachings on many levels, blood being one of them, i recently started to wonder (ok, i am slow!

  ) : what exactly does the wt think that the early non jewish christians were abstaining from in the blood abstention bit.

  while i understand the context of the request that the apostle sent to the brothers, i do not understand what jws think they were abstaining from.. meat slaughtered improperly?.

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  JWs eating any meat from a normal supermarket or butchers are therefore in conflict with the bible's law on blood.- cofty

  1 Corinthians 10:25