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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

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  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Fisherman

  That is why it would make sense to build where it conceivable really is out of harms way.

  You are thinking in terms of surviving the gt based on physical protection that comes from a bomb shelter. But according to JW, being at or fleeing to Pella will not be a refuge from the gt. According to wt, surviving the gt comes from protection from the most high. It is not about location or the result of strategy or luck or fortress. For wt it is impractical to remain in the Brooklyn location for the reasons I gave. And the move to war wicked is allusory, wt property and presence in kings having fulfilled its usefulness to God -now move to war......wicked, an allusion to wt's new era.

  Name is only coincidence unless its implication realizes. Albeit wt's move implies a change in wt position and corresponding role to God.
  
  
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Fisherman

  not even out of serious harm's way.

  How far is far enough and from what harm is WT getting out of the the way of that they should move even farther away? It does not seem that wt is afraid of a dirty bomb, etc.

  They don't need Brooklyn property for the reasons I posted. They need a place of operation away from the city, but not on mount Everest or in Pella. Other JW still occupy the area they are moving away from.

  Given that one reason for the move is to be away from harm's way, the only potential threat to bodily and building harm that they actually face in dumbo which is a considerable concern is that in case of disaster like 911, they may be compelled to open their doors to the public for shelter and also the risks because of being so centrally located next to the bridges, etc, in case of parochial disasters. So, based upon their choice to move not so far up, their move is not about building a bomb shelter. Warwick is is about 45 miles from kings and about 65 miles by car. It ain't NYC.
  
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Fisherman

  prologos, I don't see what you are implying.
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  Anyone else hear of this?

  by Tahoe in

  1. jw
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  a jw family member informed me they are filling out an application to preach the truth in israel.

  interested ones in the congregation were asked to start saving now, as the cost of the flights would be their own responsibility.

  the time frame for this preaching work is for a couple of weeks in may/june 2017. the applications are to be turned in this sunday.

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  Fisherman

  And if anyone takes a chance and dares to fly on an airplane, the only airline that I feel safe flying with is "EL AL"
  
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Fisherman

  . 1 ; - but spirit directed or not, the move north was well timed, coinciding with a peak in real estate prices.

  That is exactly what I posted on another thread as one of the reasons for the sale.
  

  Anticipation for the gt becomes acute when any wt change looms.

  
  That is true and I was going to say that in my last post but I did not and I did not realize that trump was also leaving ny together with wt. Thanks for pointing out that coincidence, a keen observation I overlooked. As it relates to wt, which is the jw excitement, 2017 will reveal if the change was an indicator of the gt or will produce as data dog says "zero".
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  Anyone else hear of this?

  by Tahoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a jw family member informed me they are filling out an application to preach the truth in israel.

  interested ones in the congregation were asked to start saving now, as the cost of the flights would be their own responsibility.

  the time frame for this preaching work is for a couple of weeks in may/june 2017. the applications are to be turned in this sunday.

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  Fisherman

  end times chronology they have preached for decades isn't even coming close to coming true.

  Only that 'generation' is loosing all meaning. But looking at the historical pattern of when family demisses and sexual depravity based on Biblical standards is the social norm, doom can be expected.
  
  
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Fisherman

  subject matter was Trump and the Great tribulation,

  You are correct, that is the topic of this thread and not whether warwick is in parochial upstate NY or larger view upstate NY.

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  no, I stated my beliefs for wt selling their properties in another thread. I only observe that it is ironic that wt chose to move to warwick of all places because of an allusion to move to war wicked. I also posted that given the gt, it does not depend on the individual dt, but there is an irony - that is what I observe. I have also posted on many threads that with or without dt, the wt message of impending gt looses all meaning in a year or so, pure speculation on my part but I have posted exactly how I see the chess board. But to say the gt will happen because dt will cause it or somehow depends on wt going somewhere other than the heights, I see no need other than as wt claims they have direction from God to move to warwick.

  
  
  
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  193

  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Fisherman

  larger view.

  This is a moot discussion. The subject matter is the move to warwick. And not its geographic location. WT does not need the properties in downtown Brooklyn any longer. The end of an era.
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  Anyone else hear of this?

  by Tahoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a jw family member informed me they are filling out an application to preach the truth in israel.

  interested ones in the congregation were asked to start saving now, as the cost of the flights would be their own responsibility.

  the time frame for this preaching work is for a couple of weeks in may/june 2017. the applications are to be turned in this sunday.

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  Fisherman

  In the US, decades ago, to think of one Jewish group (orthodoxy leadership was one of them) committed outrageous violent crimes against JW including their females (Imagine that!) Fiat from Bethel was to forgive and not to take legal action by individual JW harmed by the thugs. As it turned out, the leader of the group wound up murdered and the group was sterilized -just to mention part of the consequences of what the fate if a thug turns out to be.
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  Anyone else hear of this?

  by Tahoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a jw family member informed me they are filling out an application to preach the truth in israel.

  interested ones in the congregation were asked to start saving now, as the cost of the flights would be their own responsibility.

  the time frame for this preaching work is for a couple of weeks in may/june 2017. the applications are to be turned in this sunday.

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  Fisherman

  It is not fair for the Jews that JW enjoy freedom of religion because they don't like it. Watch and see what trumps.