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Fisherman
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Origin of shunning
by anointed1 insatan loves his own people and hates those who do not share his views, hence only he can use shunning as a weapon.. on the contrary, god is love (agape = unconditional love), cannot have his own people.
(mathew 5:44-48).
all the accounts not in conformity with this principle originated from cleric’s pen (jeremiah 7:31; 8:8).
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Fisherman
God shunned Adam and Eve after they sinned. He never communicated with them ever again. Jews practice shunning and so do gypsies and other groups. Countries practice a form of shunning by locking up lawbreakers in jail.
One should not expect to break the rules of membership of a group without some consequences.
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Why the need for 144000 imperfect humans to Rule with Christ Jesus for 1000 years ? Is he incapable of ruling by himself ?
by smiddy indoes this make any sense whatsoever ?
isnt jesus christ the king ?why the need for 144000 king priests to help him ?.
is he not up for the job?
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Still doesn't explain why thousands of dozens, 144k people to be exact. Also, why does God need anybody at all to sympathize with humanity more than He does? No one understands humanity more than Him. Who better than God knows what it is like to be human.
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Baumgartner - Dr. Mark Morehart: State of Washington Appeal Court - aborted use of cell saver machine
by darkspilver infor information:.
court of appeals of the state of washingtondivision iidocket number: 48070-1file date: 01/24/2017.
keisha baumgartner appeals the summary judgment dismissal of her medical malpractice wrongful death claim against anesthesiologist dr. mark morehart and columbia anesthesia group, p.s.
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Fisherman
Fixed it for you.
Too late for that. Having agreed to use a machine instead of blood, the hospital should have fixed the machine before the patient died. In all fairness though, it should also be understood that the hospital was trying to help the patient and in this particilar case, given the blood, the patient would probably not have died from blood loss asuuming that was the actual cause of death. While it is true that the machine failed, the hospital had other lifesaving techniques at its disposal available at the time the machine broke that the patient rejected on religious grounds prior to surgery. But again, if a written agreement existed, it must be considered. And while it may be true that had the machine been fixed, the patient would have lived, there are other factors to consider.
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Why the need for 144000 imperfect humans to Rule with Christ Jesus for 1000 years ? Is he incapable of ruling by himself ?
by smiddy indoes this make any sense whatsoever ?
isnt jesus christ the king ?why the need for 144000 king priests to help him ?.
is he not up for the job?
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Fisherman
Great and thought provoking question. I figure that there is a nature to reality and variables that affect its balance. Why? It beats me. It is like, how could Satan convince myriads of angels. He must have had some poweful argument or why would they choose to commit suicide. Did Satan desire Eve the same way the angels later on came down to take females. The 144 although kings, are pictured as female, the bride of Christ, and sometime after the marriage, they should produce offspring. At some point in time things should add up giving mental satisfaction and understanding of why things where and are the way they are and make sense of everything.
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1914 to be abandoned around 2016
by Alfred inthe other day i was doing some research about "1914" for a friend on my wt cd library (spanish) and i found it quite interesting that the number of times "1914" is mentioned in the watchtower magazine during the previous 3 decades has been dropping exponentially as follows.... 1980-1989: mentioned 854 times.
1990-1999: mentioned 492 times.
2000-2009: mentioned 222 times.
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Fisherman
"the number of times "1914" is mentioned in the Watchtower...."
According to WT, Gentile Times end in 1914 and everything else WT teaches about WT organization is based upon 1914. --So 1914 teaching is not going away depending on times.
1914*Sequence of events:
1 End of Gentile times2 Birth of Kingdom3 Parousia44 Horsemen of Apocalypse5 Lat Days6Generation7 Fall of Babylon the Great8 Appointment of Faithful Steward9.Preaching10. END* Events not necessarily listed in sequential order
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the-question (607 BCE explained and proved)
by pleaseresearch inso a user named "the-question" said the jw's were right about 607 bce.. this is your chance brother to prove us all wrong.. we all can't wait to hear from you :).
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607-70= 537
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the-question (607 BCE explained and proved)
by pleaseresearch inso a user named "the-question" said the jw's were right about 607 bce.. this is your chance brother to prove us all wrong.. we all can't wait to hear from you :).
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Some people live in a construct where fact is subjective
Which fact?
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the-question (607 BCE explained and proved)
by pleaseresearch inso a user named "the-question" said the jw's were right about 607 bce.. this is your chance brother to prove us all wrong.. we all can't wait to hear from you :).
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If you accept 539 then you believe the conclusions of others.
539 is a verifiable, historical fact. It is indisputable.
If you accept WT doctrines then you believe the conclusions of others.
Bravo!
Now go back an re-read my first post on this thread. Isn't that what I posted?
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the-question (607 BCE explained and proved)
by pleaseresearch inso a user named "the-question" said the jw's were right about 607 bce.. this is your chance brother to prove us all wrong.. we all can't wait to hear from you :).
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Yes they have. Repeatedly
No, they haven't.
and you said:............
Yes, I said I was guessing -for the last time.
So - answer my question.
Jan 1st 2018.
Will you post on this forum and be man enough to admit the the JW 1914 doctrine was crap?
For the second and final time on this thread, if my guesses turn out to be wrong, so what, it was only a guess. But show me how if I guess wrong, WT douctrines are invalid.