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  Who is the "faithful and discreet slave"? & JW class system

  by Counter-Watchtower in

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  ive asked my jw friends that 3 times and never got an answer.. and can someone explain the jw class system?

  and or point me to info on it..

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  Fisherman

  Jesus asked the same question.

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  2017 Annual Meeting

  by Jules Saturn in

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  this just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.

  1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.

  6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.

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  @ Listener: Informative post!
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  2017 Annual Meeting

  by Jules Saturn in

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  this just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.

  1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.

  6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.

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  No new content will be added to the following features

  That doesn't mean they necessarily will cut down on producing other digital publications.

  Also, regarding the YB, not because of cutbacks but because it is no longer needed, same info will be published on the jw site without having to plubish a special book which would be redundant and a waste of time.
  
  
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  The Watchtower's Real Crisis

  by JeffT in

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  when discussing the watchtowers financial problems, i've generally been of the opinion that they probably are not in a real financial crisis.

  i've come to believe that money may be something of an issue, but its wrapped up in a much larger problem.

  this came to me this morning when reading about the annual meeting.. i think the society's leadership is just plain out of ideas.

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  belief in the organisation's invincibility - despite all evidence to the contrary.

  SBF, I posted about this some threads back. JW are conviced that wt is invincible subject to their religious faith, not based on the reality of Pharaoh's advancing army, but that's not what we are talking about, at least not me, in the related threads on the topics you started that continues to be a relevant subject on this thread. A lot of unsubstantiated views have been posted by posters about their feelings about wt invincibility which can be likened to JW faith of wt invincibility. But that's not what we are talking about here : " I feel wt is going to do this." The evidence shows a financial crisis and the doctrine of crying wolf for 103 years. That's the evidence. How much longer can wt continue to cry wolf with nothing happening after 103 years! And what's the business model, as you mention, for making money to pay the bills and fund the movement besides the donation boxes? Selling off assets and cutting expenses is not a business model. We can divert the topic into a religious discussion as some posters are saying that they feel wt next move is but with no evidence to show challenging yours. Evidence shows the hounds are at the door.
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  The Watchtower's Real Crisis

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when discussing the watchtowers financial problems, i've generally been of the opinion that they probably are not in a real financial crisis.

  i've come to believe that money may be something of an issue, but its wrapped up in a much larger problem.

  this came to me this morning when reading about the annual meeting.. i think the society's leadership is just plain out of ideas.

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  An engine can't run on ideas, it needs money to burn no matter how many ideas. Money is the real "crisis."

  Pubs around the world don't have money to burn to finance printing and personnel in an endless campaign, and don't want to gear up for another century or two of urgent preaching.
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  2017 Annual Meeting

  by Jules Saturn in

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  this just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.

  1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.

  6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.

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  Morpheus, you are entitled to your opinion. I have stated my position to you and I meant what I said. If you have concluded that I swallow any apostate teaching posted here, you are wrong. Respectfully, let me clear up any misunderstandings, whether or not wt is laughed out of existence or wt is wiped out out of existence, I am no Judas, I am with wt. What you feel or interpret or conclude about me is entirely up to you and has nothing to do with the subject matter being discussed. If you want to discuss the topic, I may reply to your post but if you divert the subject matter of the thread into remarks about me and what I should be doing, I have nothing more to say to you.
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  2017 Annual Meeting

  by Jules Saturn in

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  this just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.

  1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.

  6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.

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  cling to parts of wt dogma

  Sorry if I have not made myself clear Morpheus but I am all in with wt. Whether or not being on this site suggests otherwise is debaitable.
  
  
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  2017 Annual Meeting

  by Jules Saturn in

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  this just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.

  1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.

  6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.

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  Eliminating the Yearbook

  Since the yearbook is all about the WT movement as evidenced by the preaching work, its elimination suggests to me that the wt preaching work movement is stopping, mainly for financial reasons but also for doctrinal reasons.

  Anthony Morris said in his talk "If you can't see how close we are to the end right now, you must be in a coma"

  One thing for sure, the wt era as characterized by the watchtower magazine and the world wide work, has ended. The elimination of the YB is proof -let alone everything else.

  A lot of poster have been wrong about wt resorting to begging, wt is not begging, they have begun to close their doors. But this is going to have a positive effect on the undecided towards deciding in favor of wt and has boosted the moral of all JW across the globe.

  WT has challenged society with wt bible predictions and beliefs for aprox 103 years. Has time shown wt wrong? What will happen next we shall see when the over-weight lady sings and the wait is over.
  
  
  
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  2017 Annual Meeting

  by Jules Saturn in

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  2. current

  this just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.

  1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.

  6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.

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  Future: mainstream US religion

  Never! too many angry people that will never forgive wt for wakening them up from precious sleep on Saturday mornings for nothing.
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  2017 Annual Meeting

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. social
  2. current

  this just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.

  1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.

  6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.

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  Cost reduction that's it. Everything else is a guess.

  People read into things too much and conclude too much.

  If mags were producing money or results, they wouldn't be cut. But seems that producing them are an expense and at least the same results or more can be expected with fewer mags at a great savings, same goes for other literature. This is also part of an ongoing transition into dIrecting people to JW. Org and to personally download digital literature except for the very elderly for which the written word was originally intended for in this digital era. I am puzzled that wt is projecting preaching past this year and into 2 years from now. I don't know what to guess . We will see what happens.