watchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.
the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.
the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .
you think governments should subsidize religious groups?
Hi vid!!!
Remember our heated dialogues in the past. Warm regards to you.
Vid, I think that if gov has a legal standing on some issue, they have authority to compel. Also, if there is a real safety concern. But to pick on JW or anybody else is wrong.
Also, depends on how one defines subsidize. To exclude one group without just reasons is wrong.
has this question ever been raised before by jehovah`s witnesses?
and what`s the significance, if any ?.
I believe that JC was circumcised because the Bible days that he was under the kaw and the he fulfilled the law and kept the law perfectly and that would include his parents circumcising him. Also, his patents were law abiding snd the Jewish authorities saw to it. Under the law it will as required and entering the temple in an uncircumcised state was forbidden.
I wonder if JC experienced sexual feelings and attraction to females growing up. And if he souled his diapers and the human element about him. Obviously he did because he was human. But the Bible doesn’t outright say.
according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.
mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.
and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.
conclusions. --- drawn from?
interpretations.
Such as the eyes of Eve were opened only after Adam sinned. Death penalty was not pronounced on Eve. Texts like “through one man sin entered into the world.”
Is it then sequitor that Eve could conceive like Mary perfect children inspite of her sin had Adam remained obedient? Maybe or seemingly. But that is a conclusion derived from the text.
watchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.
the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.
the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .
child abuse right
They put children in jail or in custody when they commit crimes. Is that abuse? They put parents of children in jail when parents commit crimes separating from parents and arresting in front of children. Is that abuse? Children get expelled from school is that abuse? All if a sudden because JW have rules of membership for everybody it is abuse because people become bitter and want to get back at Jw through political ties or tge favorite church of the government doesn’t like the religious competition from jw seems to me.Abuse having to do with harming physically mentally or emotionally is under the jurisdiction of the gov.
has this question ever been raised before by jehovah`s witnesses?
and what`s the significance, if any ?.
The Bible doesn’t say. The Bible doesn’t say he went to the bathroom either, or the shape of the cross he was executed on.
according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.
mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.
and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.
Conclusions without evidence. wow. or
I didn’t say there is no evidence. I said that the argument was based on conclusions. The Bible does not directly say or imply or infer or lead to to conclusion. WT is not saying now that is not the case.
according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.
mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.
and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.
not an attractive man.
Poetic Bible language aka literary device.
according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.
mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.
and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.
Jesus was pre-conceived in vitro within a heavenly laboratory.
Mary was not a surrogate mother. She was genetically related to Jesus and probably looked like him.
according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.
mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.
and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.
DG, Bible says that through one man sin entered into the world and blames Adam. There is an argument that that is why Jesus did not inherited sin from Mary but the argument is based on conclusions not evidence.
according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.
mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.
and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.
Holy Spirit’ Is an entirely unverifiable
The premise in this topic is Jesus’s miraculous birth. Then how could Jesus still be perfect given his sinful mother. 1 answer is God fixed the genetics 2 Sin is passed down by the father so in this case given the premise, Jesus did not have a human father.
