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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

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  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Fisherman

  Every part of what you just said is wrong.

  No it’s not. Also, WT scholarship is not only valid but published. Don’t agree? Too bad.
  
  
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

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  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Fisherman

  quoting part of my sentence out of context

  I didn’t.

  Also, you invalidated 586 using this magnetic dating method. My question was linked to the premise that 586 was derivatively validated as some function of the results of the method. Axiomatically if 586 cannot be confirmed with the method, my question doesn’t apply but it is valid as liked to the premise.

  By the way, you are incorrect about Jeremiah.
  
  
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

  1. social
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  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Fisherman

  586' was a misrepresentation of the source material

  We know that. Many posts ago, SBF kindly made that clear in other terms. I like the way he explained it—as he usually does things on this forum. Also, if derivatively the dating method is somewhat validating 586, Waton is not misrepresenting the source material. Which I think is his point.
  
  
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  Judgment Day

  by Fisherman in

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  a specific “day,” or period, when particular groups, nations, or mankind in general are called to account by god.

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  “i solemnly charge you before god and christ jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead,”- 2 tim 4:1. seems like sins are not paid by dying or the ransom if there is a judgment in-spite of it.

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  Fisherman

  Watchtower has judged that Adam is not worthy of a resurrection

  Already explained that in a previous post.

  Obviously, WT does not have power or authority to “judge.” But wt can interpret what the Bible says about how God dealt with Adam and will judge others in the future, and although wt can decide who can be df from the congregation for example, only God through his chief agent of life Jesus Christ has the authority to ultimately forgive and give everlasting life.
  
  
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  Was / Is God biased ? prejudiced against certain Peoples / Tribes or Nations ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  let me explain :.

  after the creation account of the bible, tribes of people and nations began to form and spread around the land.. god first chose noah and his family to protect them as he destroys all others in the flood.. and he ticks off everyone in babel ?

  and then he favours abraham and his descendants as the nation of israel culminating in the jewish lineage to jesus the son of god.. he has never had any dealings with any other people`s or nation isn`t that some form of favouritism ?

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  Fisherman

  Smiddy, some people are greedy, narcissistic, selfish, treacherous, tricky others are trustworthy, sincerely, kind, generous, loyal. Who would you choose as a friend and who would you stay away from?

  Having feelings of empathy and compassion you may go out of your way to try to help someone with bad traits hoping that they will respond to love.
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  Judgment Day

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a specific “day,” or period, when particular groups, nations, or mankind in general are called to account by god.

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  “i solemnly charge you before god and christ jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead,”- 2 tim 4:1. seems like sins are not paid by dying or the ransom if there is a judgment in-spite of it.

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  Fisherman

  The Watchtower has decided Adams eternal fate.

  It hasn’t. There is a difference between adjudication and interpretation.
  
  
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

  1. social
  2. current

  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Fisherman

  What results does the magnetic dating method yield using 607 instead of 586? How does it falsify 607?
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

  1. social
  2. current

  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Fisherman

  According to wt, on 607 B.C.E., on Tammuz (June-July) 9 in the 11th year of Zedekiah’s reign (Nebuchadnezzar’s 19th year if counting from his accession year or his 18th regnal year), the king of Babylon penetrated the walls of Jerusalem.—This is much earlier than 586. (The wt publishes support of their interpretation in the wt online library.) Other views are welcome but I was only bringing out the 70 year prophetic aspect involving the land, spoken by Jeremiah in the quoted scripture as I explained in my post.
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  Judgment Day

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a specific “day,” or period, when particular groups, nations, or mankind in general are called to account by god.

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  “i solemnly charge you before god and christ jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead,”- 2 tim 4:1. seems like sins are not paid by dying or the ransom if there is a judgment in-spite of it.

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  Fisherman

  According to JWs, will Adam be resurrected to judgment, resurrected to glory ... or will he not be resurrected at all?

  JW believe that after the 1000 years when humanity reaches perfection, each person will be tested like Adam was. Any perfect human that sins dies forever. JW believe that Adam was judged at Eden and sentenced to eternal death with no hope of a resurrection at this time because although the ransom applies to his sons, it doesn’t apply to Adam and Eve so salvation is not possible. But we also believe that the only ultimately judgment depends on God.
  

  How about people who died in the flood and those God destroyed in Sodom and Gomorrah?

  Who knows? Some Jw believe yes and others no but WT has published both yes and no about this.
  
  
  
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

  1. social
  2. current

  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Fisherman

  what "paying back it's Sabbaths" means

  According to Jewish law, every 7 years the land should not be cultivated. Israelites were required to let the land rest. The Israelites failed to this throughout the years. The scriptures don’t say exactly how many times the Israelites broke this law but 70 years of desolation was the total time that God required to allow the land to rest from being cultivated and harvested to pay back or compensate for the times this law was trespassed.

  It is important to take note of this because some people can argue that God let the Jews out earlier than 70 years and reconcile 586 but that cannot apply to the land. Therefore, if 539 was the end of the 70 year desolation of the land, the desolation must have begun 70 years earlier.

  “21 to fulfill Jehovah’s word spoken by Jeremiah, until the land had paid off its sabbaths. All the days it lay desolate it kept sabbath, to fulfill 70 years.” —2chr 2: 21

  ALL the days