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  Aside from the alleged "composite Sign", what is the scriptural evidence for Christ's 1914 presence?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  my take is: 1914 is not biblical since no dates are in the bible.

  a hodgepodge of scriptures are ingeniously linked together; then stir in about 9 creative assumptions to arrive at a speculative theory on which to base wts authority.. nathan knorr to fred franz.

  "there are some things that i know.

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  In terms of a date vis-à-vis 1914, what is the scriptural evidence for Jesus’ first coming circa 2 BCE?
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  JW Writing Committee has a dilemma with Stephen's prayer

  by BoogerMan in

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  (acts 7:59, 60) "and they went on casting stones at stephen as he made appeal* and said: “lord jesus, receive my spirit.” then, bending his knees, he cried out with a strong voice: “jehovah, do not charge this sin against them.” and after saying this he fell asleep [in death].

  " *or, “invocation; prayer.” nwt reference bible).

  w59 2/1 p. 96 - jesus had taught his followers that the father authorized him to raise others to life.

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  Not at all see Marginal References on Acts 7:60i n the NWT Study Bible. —Notwithstanding that WT might have had different explanations of the verse in the past as SBF also explains.
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  Aside from the alleged "composite Sign", what is the scriptural evidence for Christ's 1914 presence?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my take is: 1914 is not biblical since no dates are in the bible.

  a hodgepodge of scriptures are ingeniously linked together; then stir in about 9 creative assumptions to arrive at a speculative theory on which to base wts authority.. nathan knorr to fred franz.

  "there are some things that i know.

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  The 7x application to 1914 and JW fulfilling Bible prophecy. Never before in human history has the meaning of the entire Bible been solved.

  “As for you, Daniel, keep the words secret, and seal up the book until the time of the end. Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant.”
  
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  Are we living in the LAST DAYS?

  by Fisherman in

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  are we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into armageddon?

  if this is true then how long should it take?

  as jw saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 ad as a parallel.

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  some living would not see death before the end came.

  He was referring in poetic language to his transfiguration a few days later and possibly about John seeing the realization of the Bible fulfilled when John experienced writing the book of Revelation. Those men experienced it empirically. And don’t forget the realization of the destruction of Jerusalem that just so happened to his contemporaries just as Jesus predicted it would, from his definition of “shikkutz” to the Romans dashing Jewish children to pieces, the destruction of the Temple and more. Very real and I’m convinced.
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  Church buys GEICO Woodbury property for $27M

  by Rattigan350 in

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  https://libn.com/2023/01/09/church-buys-geico-woodbury-property-for-27m/.

  after a previous sale fell through, geico has sold its sprawling woodbury property for $27 million.

  the buyer for the 236,365-square-foot office building on 20 acres at 750 woodbury road is the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses.

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  the new owner of the property would be tax exempt

  There is more than one way to skin a cat.
  
  
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  Are we living in the LAST DAYS?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into armageddon?

  if this is true then how long should it take?

  as jw saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 ad as a parallel.

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  Are we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into Armageddon? If this is true then how long should it take? As JW saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 AD as a parallel. Last days shouldn’t last so long. There must be a limit.
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  JW elders TAUGHT to treat Higher Education as WRONG!

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. scandals

  in this jw training video, an elder gets deleted because his daughter has "stumbled" other jw's by pursuing higher education.

  🤣.

  @ 13.35 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u2ohrbdm-c.

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  If you want to be an Elder then you must be an example to the congregation and follow the direction from the gb. How can elder tell the sheep to pursue spiritual interests and support his daughter in going to college when wt counsels JW not to pursue a higher ed. Posted vid is proper.
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  Is WT Teachig on Hell Biblical?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  i guess you could say jesus was the first christian, since he was the christ.

  and as the first christian, jesus spoke more about hell that any other biblical figure.

  but, he is also the figure that said that he didn't come to condemn the world, but to save it.

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  When will he grant immortality to the wicked so they can be tortured forever in the lake of fire?

  Life is a blessing not a curse. The wicked will then curse the Holy One day and night and will curse the blessedness of life day and night praying for death and the Blessed and Just and Loving God would be forced to listen idly. While you and God enjoy heavenly bliss—as cofty highlighted.
  
  
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  What would you change?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  i’m agnostic so maybe the universe started by chance or by design.. if it was by design (hypothetically) and the bible is the designers word, and jws seem to be the closest to it, then what would be the largest things you would change?.

  here are a few ideas.

  -do away with the governing body thinking they are gods only channel.

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  what if they are preaching another gospel

  What if not.

  It is a personal conclusion like in the first century believing that JC was the Messiah and listening to him. If believing that wt is not God’s agency is inconsequential, it doesn’t matter.
  
  
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  What would you change?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m agnostic so maybe the universe started by chance or by design.. if it was by design (hypothetically) and the bible is the designers word, and jws seem to be the closest to it, then what would be the largest things you would change?.

  here are a few ideas.

  -do away with the governing body thinking they are gods only channel.

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  There are a things that are destined to change if the end doesn’t come —soon: the adjudication of sin, the role of females in the congregation, the elder, servant body class, the congregation management policy, FDS and the anointed definition and status, blood, hierarchy.

  Male and female anointed get to be kings in heaven but while on earth they are the same as everybody else. Also, those in positions of authority roles in the congregation have the purpose of management and spiritual assistance but not leadership. There is a harsh approach to management nowadays which will surely change.

  WT made the representation in the past of a special “channel of communication “ but later wt admitted in the literature that although HS is a factor in JW work that there is no special communication than everyone else’s inside the org. —So JW know that WT claims are real because JW have a real relationship with God but there is no position of special standing in comparison to everyone else.