Posts by gespro

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Jealousy

by Stefanie in

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friends

does anyone have a problem with this, or have a problem with their mates being like this.

how do you know when your mate is cheating and when is it enough?

do you forgive..do you stay???.

gespro

Way to go Billygoat!

gespro -the overly possessive traumaitized amazing smoking baboon

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Creative Loafing Article:

by Xandria in

i know a writer here and they have always strived to uncover the truth, so much so they are on the s-list of the politicians.

to my fellow north carolinians and east coasters.. stay tuned.

tara servatius has a year worth of poop on many subjects.

It's dangerous to speak the real truths. We're listening. It confirms what kind of people there are in power. I admire these people for speaking out about the atrocities. Genocide on that side of the earth is growing. Sudan is going to get worse [30,000 gone and a projected 800,000 will perish].

I can't believe people like the Micheal Moores of the world are still walking around! It's getting scarier out here...

gespro

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how far would you have gone?

by zen nudist in

i recall while i was just a new jw how horrified i was at the "brother" who was bringing me along.... when he told me that he was so sure about the governing body being jehovah's mouth piece, that if one day they announced--this is it, this is the end, kill any and all non-jws in your path....he would do it.

gespro

...if one day they announced--this is it, this is the end, kill any and all NON-JWs in your path....he would do it.

Wow Zen! I've overheard some zealous ones talking but this is an example of the extreme. So glad I've finally cut loose their mindset/fanaticsm. Unfortunately, some of us hold onto that kind of 'righteousness' when it comes to American politics, which worries me at times.

Oh, no, this isn't a cult!

LOL@Faraon

You surely are a lying apostate!
Faraon

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Jealousy

by Stefanie in

jw
friends

does anyone have a problem with this, or have a problem with their mates being like this.

how do you know when your mate is cheating and when is it enough?

do you forgive..do you stay???.

gespro

That was wrong of her!

Thanks Steph...No one else has acknowledged my feelings on that story. Thank you...

We were both a couple of young goofballs. I wish someone had put a chasity belt on me until my hormones calmed down [or at least picked a girl that was sober...]

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Jealousy

by Stefanie in

jw
friends

does anyone have a problem with this, or have a problem with their mates being like this.

how do you know when your mate is cheating and when is it enough?

do you forgive..do you stay???.

gespro

Jealousy, possessiveness, insecurities...I wrote the book! Having been born into the JW mindset [of my mother], I can see where it came from. With maturity, I realized how silly I was acting and saw others acting the same way.

My mother pretty much had me thinking that all men are bad and all women are good. Men had to talk them into the sex act. I was 17 when I made the horrifying discovery that women had sexual wants and desires! Go figure...That was the begining of my rageful journey into reality. I also believed in 'only ones' and was told I should marry a virgin. [I was...my ex-wife was not and was in total denial about why she was not. She said she was raped. She lied! I had to marry her to finally be told the truth. Virginity wasn't the issue. I would have understood after re-adjusting my thinking but she liked to lie about a lot of things. Plus she didn't know what love was either. Two losers...]

I definitely tormented my ex-wife with it [even though there was good cause for it] and realized how I approached life could help me overcome it. I possess no one else. If love is there, the other person won't purposely shame you and cause you to be jealous/insecure. If they're that flighty, turnaround is far play. I remember an ex-fiance who would always talk to the guys at parties and it would bug me so, I started talking to the girls every time she would get into this mode and it drove her nuts! We were very young then...more gameplaying. Not conducive to anything healthy.

I know a lot of x-dub men who had that same intense rage when a partner caused them to become jealous. I let go of too many great women because of my own anger/insecurities. I could cut them loose like they didn't exist! Sound familiar...? How horrifying emotionally! It wasn't until after I took a good hard look at my twisted thinking I was able to handle a relationship at 25 [I should have waited 10 more years before I considered remarrying].

Yes, I still have issues I'm working through like:

How do you look at your partner and feel total intimacy when they've been in the throes of passion with another man? How CAN you want to be the only one with this person when this kind of love is fleeting? Someone once told me Men want to be first -Women want you to be their last. Is this how it works?

Am I not supposed to totally love my mate?

A lot of my issues go back to childhood trauma and are NOT my mates fault/problem. If we waited until everyone addressed this issue and was in recovery, I think there would be a LOT of single men and women, stronger marriages, and healthy children but that's just my .02

gespro the amazing traumatized smoking baboon

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Hey -What's Wrong With This Picture

by gespro in

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Zambia Child Endangered Over Transfusion

by allpoweredup in

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any of you have a subscription to allafrica.com for the rest of the story?

you'll notice the 2004 copyright meaning it's current to this year.

allafrica.com: zambia: baby battles for life as parents reject ...

gespro

Hey Allpowered,

I couldn't find that current article but, I did find the following that I thought was worth posting:

Adultery Amongst Jehovah's Witnesses Worries Court WHY should Jehovah's Witnesses be filled with adulterous people and yet they teach God's word in depth, wondered Lusaka Boma local court presiding justice Sainet Chitambo as he fined a Jehovah's Witness K500, 000 for defamation of character.

It seems that for $8 you can gain access to the entire sight for seven days. I might have to do that to find the article you posted. Do you have access to the site?

gespro

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Promising new treatments for anxiety and depression/online support groups

by seeitallclearlynow in

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gespro

I can't recommend these people enough when it comes to learning about anxiety and depression...

http://www.cbwhit.com/

Hi Seeit,

I don't mean to intrude on your thread but I have to respond to any post regarding this subject because I've come a long way to understand myself dealing with depression. I've never been in the position to help others until now because of my own road to recovery and i can safely say that the information Charles Whitfield has gathered will speed up the road to recovery for anyone wanting to.

gespro -the traumatized smoking baboon

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Racism - American Idol?

by confusedjw in

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earlier this season there were some reports and accusations of racism in the voting for the american idol.. but now with the last two seasons being capped off with a black and white finalist and the black singer winning both times should this put to rest the accusations?

gespro

You're just gonna gliss right over my post Gopher?

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What first gave you doubts ?

by rick1199 in

we all know the big problems with the wts, but what was the first thing that made you realise there were problems with the organisation ?

with me it was realitivly small stuff like an 8 year old getting baptised and a comment my best mates made about another of our friends asking if we should be hanging round with her as she might be bad assciation (she had just been reproved, but they had been mates 20 years).. .

how ever the first time i ever thought something was really wrong was when i was about 11 and my grand farther died, and mu mum wouldn't go to the funeral, i remeber thinking that surely it was better to say good bye properly than worry about if the service was in a church.. .

gespro

Wow! Intense thread!!

I was born in the 'troof' to a narcissistic theocratic mother. Conditional Love R Us!

Dad got driven out of the house before I
was born, Baptised at 8 or 9, left home at 17 for the last time and married an alcholic college girl, brought my pregnant bride back into the troof. Was told my first baptism was invalid -study for a new one. My mother wasn't pleased with that decision. She wanted me to hang!

While going D-to-D withthe elder who took over my life and family, we ran into some Christians. The elder and I sat and talked to these real gentle men who seemed to imitate the Christ better than we were with their calmness of spirit. After the elder pounded his fist on their table, the Christians asked if we could all pray together to find the truth of our debate. The elder grabbed me and said," We'll not pray with you!" And out the door we went. "We showed them, eh brother!" I was confused. A shouting match and us dubs were the ones with our mouths open. I wasn't impressed by this display. The other guys , to me, really showed a beautiful, patient spirit that impressed more than Brother Tablepounder had.

After my 2nd daughter made it through without a blood transfusion because of the RH factor and going to court to have child neglect charges thrown out of court and striken from my record , we're sitting in a meeting and [to this day, I still can't believe what I heard] from the podium I hear, "It's not a real test of faith when we have to defend the blood issue." All I could think was 'What the hell is he saying to us?' My demise was swift and my family fell apart soon after that. I don't know about anyone else, but it was not easy to see my little baby sick in the hospital...I have to stop now

I'm still glad she didn't have a transfusion because the blood supply was not as 'clean' then as it is now. I didn't have doubts until almost 25 years later I went back to the Hall and talked to these Bozo's about coming back. I saw how they treated me. That's when I had doubts. I had grown up and could see something really wrong with these people. Then I read the Ray Franz C o C book and lost my mind for about 2 years. I found it and now I'm back better than ever and finally I can start having a relationship with my Lord and Saviour.