It has so far continued in Africa and Brasil which know little of the scandals as not on the internet as much. We do need to educate them more.
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Will JW increase continue?
by dmouse inthe latest watchtower (july 1st) it says this: (bold mine).
(page 13 para 17) now is the time for jehovah to express mercy to his anointed servants and their other sheep companions.
the evidence that this is so is the extraordinary increase with which he has blessed them... .
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St Louis FINALLY mentioned it
by pandora inhttp://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/news/ea514b97cfdb703686256bb8001160b4?opendocument&highlight=2%2cjehovah?opendocument&headline=lawmaker+says+clergy+should+tell+of+abuse+suspicions .
lawmaker says clergy should tell of abuse suspicions.
by eric stern.
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anewperson
They mentioned the Cabool, Missouri, case but not what happened at Richmond, Missouri, and not what happened with silentlambs in general including the recent disfellowshipping of JWs openly speaking against the Watchtower Society covering up child abuse.
Why don't you or someone with time for it email the person a copy of the AP press item. Also do so to the Kansas City Star and tell them that there is a local story connection since Tim Gardner was a Jehovah's Witness ministerial servant when he was molesting children.
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Is there really a file on pedophiles in the WTS?
by Leander ini got drafted to take out the field service group this weekend, as we were on our way out to the territory yesterday morning sonmeone brought up the chicago suntimes article on jws.
almost immediately everyone in the group had negative comments about bill or the newspaper.
whats interesting also is that whenever there is a person who speaks against the wts their is always an assumption that the person is disfellowshipped and is angry because of it.
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anewperson
Sun Times they might dismiss as maybe biased, but what of:
CNN
CBS Radio
New York Times
New York Post
Washington Post
The Associated PressYes, the Judicial Committee records with all sins are filed in Brooklyn Bethel.
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Watchtower Leaders launch propaganda offensive
by Rado Vleugel inas the regular visitors of this board know, more and more newspapers are paying attention to the fact that the society tries to silence child abuse-policy critics.
in the article watchtower leaders launch propaganda offensive against sexual child abuse-policy critics you can see how the office of public information of jehovah's witnesses strikes back by telling the public 'how good they are in handling child molestation'.. rado vleugel.
http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/
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anewperson
Also ask those who say only apostates attack the WTS's covering up pedophilia:
Is CNN an apostate?
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Watchtower Leaders launch propaganda offensive
by Rado Vleugel inas the regular visitors of this board know, more and more newspapers are paying attention to the fact that the society tries to silence child abuse-policy critics.
in the article watchtower leaders launch propaganda offensive against sexual child abuse-policy critics you can see how the office of public information of jehovah's witnesses strikes back by telling the public 'how good they are in handling child molestation'.. rado vleugel.
http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/
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anewperson
Ask your mom:
"Is the New York Post an apostate, mom?"
"Is the Associated Press an apostate, mom?
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Bill Bowen "Kidneys"
by HildaBingen inas a mystical christian, i am just as distressed about child molestation as is mr bowen.
however i wonder about this man's motives.
why did he choose to handle his row with the witness organization in this way?
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anewperson
Prisca's right. The "Hildabingen" is a voice for the Watcthtower Society. Who else would attack a man who defends children from pedophiles. Several times now they have come on this board to sew question-marks that don't exist. Watchtower, your doing this will motivate us to send out letters-to-the-editor, etc, not dissuade us. Why are you so stupid.
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My Sister's At Bethel Right Now
by bluesapphire inwonder if she'll have to be face to face with the three new york articles that came out today.. i'm crossing my fingers and praying.
she's a sociologist (believe it or not) and knows about social issues.
just that she says "talk to the hand" whenever anything is negative about dubs.. but this -- this she wont be able to ignore.
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anewperson
There are many good JWs who are simply trapped and misled by the Watchtower Society. We're not bashing JWs per se but are exposing those in the WTS who mislead our friends and families. Up with Jehovah but down with the Watchtower Society, its spying and coverups of pedophilia etc
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A Question For Bill Bowen
by anid1 inhi, i just have a quick question.
on another board a girl stepped forward and said that her story will be airing on dateline.
she said that you had uncovered her story of her husband abusing someone and it being hid by the wt.. now, i can't go into all the details because it would make this post very long but i just have a feeling this is a jehovah's witness trying to make this look like a farce because her story changes like you wouldn't believe.
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anewperson
The Watchtower Society will do anything, anything to try to cloud things and hide themselves better......... too late for you though, oh, thou daughter of Babylon the Great. You had plenty of forewarnings and chose to ignore them all...... In one hour will you be cast down.
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PRESS- Silentlambs-More to Follow---
by silentlambs in, http://www.courier-journal.com/localnews/2002/05/08/ke050802s203205.htm.
jehovah's witnesses act against abuse-policy critics .
by peter smith .
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anewperson
These WTS heads are real bullies. Years ago JWs could even read the books that former JWs wrote. That freedom though was taken away. Merely reading a dissenting work now also brands you an apostate. THEY are they apostates. Men who stoop to hide pedophilia are the lowest. They are all little Leo Greenlees-type Governing Body pedophiles by virtue of their coverup and allowing pedophile to go door-to-door, endangering everybody's children. Up with Jehovah, down with the Watchtower pedophiles, including those sitting in Brooklyn.
Did we all notice the so-called "airmail special" from the Watchtower Society questioning not just Bill's desire to get this wrong righted, but that of us all?! Yes, I know you did. Things are going to come out from other Kingdom Hall elders all over this land, the United States, and all over this planet. Let 'er rock!
BTW, why don't some of you in exJW Support Groups and who know other exJWs and Friends, car pool and get to Bill's conference? Maybe we need to start a thread just for that? A thread called something like: CAR POOLS FOR SILENTLAMBS CONFERENCE/VIGIL
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6/15 WT Re: Revealing Confidential Matters
by SumnerSloan inp. 31 - a time to reveal a confidential matter - three little paragraphs about how the "appointed shepherds" sometimes choose not to reveal certain matters to the cong.
for a time ...).
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anewperson
They are scared stiff that other things related to the pedophile scandal will start popping out into the press from elders all over the U.S. and in other nations now! Also their other dirt including some items mentioned below. Just pick from all the stuff already leaking, and multiply by the number of kingdom halls elders who will start talking:
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*********************************************************************TO OUR READERS: As I write the Silentlambs drama is proceding rapidly as seen right below regarding the press conference, candle-light vigil etc, though at the same time do not forget that "Shunned Father" is also battling the Watchtower Society in Calgary in Alberta province, Canada. Be praying for his success too, not just for the paying of high bills the WTS has run up, but for making the WTS pay for that bill and those of other victims over the blood issue. More on Shunned Father and many other high interest topics farther below.
SILENTLAMBS ANNOUNCES COURTHOUSE PRESS CONFERENCE, CEMETERY VIGIL:There will be a press conference on the courthouse steps at 10:00 a.m. on May 24, 2002 this press conference will address questions raised by Jehovah’s Witnesses concerning the conduct of leadership in ignoring the cry of child molestation victims within their organization and their attempt to excommunicate those who support them.
At 5:30 p. m. there will be a candlelight vigil held at Wilson Cemetery, Foust-Sledd Road and Highway 68, for the purpose of offering support to all silent lambs. A silent lamb is described as an individual who has experienced child molestation and those who support them that suffer due to actions of people who claim to represent God. The public is invited to attend and participate if they wish. For further information contact Bill Bowen, . [email protected].
( http://www.silentlambs.org)GERMAN WEBSITE PROVES WATCHTOWER SOCIETY CONNECTIONS WITH MOONIES, SCIENTOLOGY, MORMONS, ETC: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=27230&site=3
SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA, PAPER TO FEATURE STORY ABOUT EX-JW'S BOOK: The San Jose Mercury News will feature a story about ex-JW Diane Wilson's new book, AWAKENING OF A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS: ESCAPE FROM THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY, in the Sunday May 12 edition. It will appear on the cover of the Religion section.
WATCHTOWER LEADERS OVER JW'S ATTACK CHILD ABUSE CRITICS:
Jehovah's Witnesses act against abuse-policy critics
By Peter Smith
psmith @courier-journal.com
The Courier-JournalLeaders of the Jehovah's Witnesses are taking steps to excommunicate a Western Kentucky man and three other church members who have publicly criticized what they say is their church's secretive handling of child-molestation cases.
Bill Bowen of Benton, Ky., said he was summoned to a judicial hearing to be held Friday at his Draffenville, Ky., church to answer allegations of ''causing divisions within the congregation and organization of Jehovah's Witnesses.''
Bowen resigned as an elder in the Marshall County congregation in December 2000
to protest the church's handling of a local case and its policies on handling abuse allegations. He has since formed a support group for abuse victims.
Bowen figured prominently in a CourierJournal report in February 2001 on sexualabuse issues among Jehovah's Witnesses, as did a New Jersey couple who also say they are threatened with excommunication, Carl and Barbara Pandelo.
A former employee at church headquarters, Barbara Anderson of Normandy, Tenn., said she also faces excommunication.The Jehovah's Witnesses Office of Public Information declined to comment specifically on the four cases, citing confidentiality policies. The Courier-Journal report cited court cases in several states in which Jehovah's Witnesses officials were accused of keeping secret the allegations of abuse by their elders or members in two cases, allegedly in violation of state law. Leaders of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, as the organization is formally known, have disputed these claims, saying they obey all laws requiring the reporting of child abuse and do not interfere with police investigations.
They say that in states that do not require reporting of abuse, they prefer taking steps to protect children while not breaching what they see as confidential communications between elders and members.Church officials say they might advise elders to move victims out of abusive homes or refer them to counseling. Bowen said he believes the action is being taken to deter Jehovah's Witnesses from listening to him, the Pandelos and Anderson in news reports or on the Web site of his ''silentlambs'' organization (www.silentlambs.org). He said church members who listen to the words of ''apostates,'' or those who abandon the faith, are at risk of excommunication themselves. Bowen said he has asked that his hearing be postponed from Friday because of plans for minor surgery. In its statement, the Jehovah's Witnesses Office of Public Information quoted biblical references in saying elders must use church discipline to ''shepherd the flock of God in their care.'' ''In fact, they are required by the Holy Scriptures to see to it that the congregation remains clean and unified,'' the statement said. ''No hasty decision is made in this process.'' The goal is not to expel a member, but to follow the Apostle Paul's injunction to ''try to readjust such a man in a spirit of mildness,'' the statement said.
The Pandelos, of Belmar, N.J., were summoned to a hearing Monday night at their local congregation concerning unspecified ''allegations of apostasy,'' according to a April 19 letter on Watchtower stationery. Carl Pandelo said he and his wife stayed only five minutes, long enough to deliver letters of protest to the chairman of the disciplinary committee. They have not received a reply. ''It's not like we didn't expect it,'' he said. ''You're not allowed to talk against the church in any way.'' The pandelos, who no longer attend Jehovah's Witnesses services, have told The Courier-Journal that after Carl's father, Clement Pandelo, molested their daughter, the congregation acted more sympathetically to the molester than to his victim. Elders did tell Clement Pandelo to turn himself in to police, and he pleaded guilty in 1989 to molesting three girls after admitting molesting children for 40 years.
An elder with the congregation told The Courier-Journal that church leaders did the best they could to mediate the situation.Anderson said she has not seen the charges against her in writing but that her husband, an elder at a Manchester, Tenn., congregation, was told she was accused of ''causing divisions.'' ''I categorically deny any of this,'' said Anderson, a former employee at Watchtower headquarters in Brooklyn, N.Y., where she said she first learned about the church's policies on handling abuse cases.
In the past year, two more lawsuits have been filed against Watchtower in New Hampshire and Washington state, accusing local church elders of failing to follow state laws on reporting suspected abuse to police. In both cases, church members were convicted of sexual abuse. One suit filed in January by Erica Rodriguez, who said she was repeatedly abused by a church member years ago, claims an elder at her former congregation in Washington state threatened her with excommunication if she reported her abuser to police.A Watchtower statement denies this, saying that there are no sanctions against anyone who chooses to go to police, and that church elders and Watchtower did not know of the abuse until years after it had occurred. In New Hampshire, two women are suing Watchtower, alleging elders failed to report suspicions of abuse. Their father was later convicted and sentenced to 56 years in prison for abuse. Jehovah's Witnesses, founded in the 19th century, number about 1 million members in the United States and 6 million globally. Best known for its door-to-door evangelism, the church views its teachings as authentic Christianity, though it parts company with other Christian bodies on some fundamental beliefs. Like some other close-knit religious organizations, Jehovah's Witnesses practice church discipline within their congregations and sometimes ''disfellowship,'' or excommunicate, members who are believed to persist in their errors.
A PROJECT NEVER TO FORGET: "SAVE MY DAUGHTER" This could save your own daughter's life too. A friend in Calgary, Canada, who is called "Shunned Father" by court order, now has legal bills run over $80,000 from battling the Watchtower Society's attorneys to keep his Jehovah's Witness daughter alive by getting her needed emergency blood transfusions as treatment for brain cancer.
To confirm that this is a legitimate request, not some scam see the link at the end, then once convinced make a check out to Save My Daughter and email it to Shunned Father, P.O. Box 20161, Calgary Place R.P.O., Calgary, T2P 4J2. That link is http://www.canada.com/calgary/story.asp?id={A513F890-797C-465D-9FD8-90EBBAE6BDCF} Again, let's remember, today's it's his daughter, tomorrow it may our own daughter or grandchild!
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