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anewperson
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WTS v. Stratton
by Marvin Shilmer infebruary 2002 issue of the american lawyer .
supreme advocacy: church of free speech, by tony mauro.
god doesn't have an interest in that.
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Effective JW Hotline ads, Leaflets: Suggestions?
by Room 215 ini've been thinking about running a small classified ad for 1-800-why 1914 hotline in the local paper.
has anyone seen any well-written ads?.
ditto for any leaflets (like the ``danger at your door""), i.e.
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anewperson
Also good though inexpensive are cutting a poster board down in size, putting it out of the driver's vision area in the back of a car window, and having on it a brief message like for example "Jehovah's Witness Sexual Abuse:" followed by the toll-free phone number of silentlambs.
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Effective JW Hotline ads, Leaflets: Suggestions?
by Room 215 ini've been thinking about running a small classified ad for 1-800-why 1914 hotline in the local paper.
has anyone seen any well-written ads?.
ditto for any leaflets (like the ``danger at your door""), i.e.
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anewperson
Here's a 2 paragraph leaflet. Trim it down etc as you may please:
SHOCKING FACTS TOLD OUT OF LOVE TO THE CONGREGATION & PUBLIC: The Watchtower Society (WTS) over Jehovah's Witnesses (JWs) cover up child molestation & let pedophiles go door-to-door http://www.silentlambs.org. They say God opposes the UN but, until exposed, in 1991-2001 were a formal UN associate not just to use the UN's library as proved if you will read the Nov 22, 1998 Awake magazine closely & http://www.unhchr.ch/udhr/materials/articles.htm for the 2nd entry there. 1 Cor 6:1 only says judge "trivial" things as in business, James 2:4-13 calls judging harmful, & Paul says the "majority" (2 Cor 2:6) followed his advice to shun a wrongdoer, meaning a minority chose not to & yet he nowhere condemns them, yet the WTS has formal Judicial Committes destroying families via numerous formal renderings of disfellowshipment (shunning).
Acts 15:20 says abstain from blood but 1 Sam 14:32-5 says Saul's army ate unBLED meat to not starve & no verses show God not forgiving them. Christ says God also forgave David's eating temple holy bread & that God wants Mercy Not Sacrifice. (Mt 12) The May 22, 1994 Awake tells of 26 JW kids who died without transfusions, & by common sense in massive bleeding as in car wrecks blood expanders won't save lives http://www.ajwrb.org. About 3 JWs die daily earthwide from the unscriptural policy! (Blood On The Altar by David Reed) Why must anyone be endangered? JWs can form nonWTS groups united by LOVE, join another group or decrease donations & support to the WTS. Please make & use copies of this for years ahead. It was written out of love for our JW families & friends as well as the public's - yours too!
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Another UK Paper Investigates Child Abuse in WTS
by Ivor Hope injust spotted this on paul kevins web site.. it's an ad posted by a current jw, as he tries to get information for the sunderland echo to do an article about child abuse in the wt.. to see the full story go to:.
http://www.welcome.to/witnesscd.
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anewperson
Read it. Good.
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anewperson
Stratton is not saying they can't do it but that they can't do it without letting authorities know who they are so as to be given approval. This protects people from con artists and burglars. There is no hindrance to freedom of religion. If the WTS were to beat Stratton then kooks who claim some tie to religion can go to homes under that guise then trick and steal from people, especially the most confused elderly citizens.
As shown by another poster here the Watchtower Society has long issued identity cards to JWs for usage in communities with this sort of concern, and told JWs to register with police. Therefore they have a history of acknowledging that officials do have the right to make such requirements, and their bellyaching now is therefore moot and voids their case. The Independent Baptists have been tricked by the WTS into thinking they are helping fight for freedom on this issue when the reverse is true as the WTS is against freedom to dissent without reprisal as applies to its own dissidents.
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anewperson
Voices of other Witnesses on the phone may indicate the phone has a hook-switch by-pass on it. It's a device that turns the phone into a broadcasting instrument. Whatever is said in its vicinity is picked up and transmitted to the distant listener even if the phone is down on the receiver. Although normally it conducts speech from the target back to the listener sometimes the switch may be put in reverse which is when the target overhears things said by those at the listener's home.
When noises like beeps, chirping sounds, or voices are heard it can indicate the presence of an FM transmitting device being used by the cult to harass the targeted party. This is why talk of "demons" often occurs among cult groups. Its really from their own leaders, an effort to scare, intimidate, train, discipline "in righteousness," play the role of "Jehovah's evil spirit," "Jehovah's Holy Spirit in action" or however you may hear it described. A congregation "angel" once told me they had nearly driven "an annointed sister" crazy and laughed about it. I wonder how frequent this is and if it isn't picking up now as the Dateline thing approaches. [email protected]
Cultists (and here I mean "real" cultists by deeds not just doctrine) sometimes also take advantage of when they know a member is gone on vacation or at a meeting to play pranks. For example, if you have been "good" they may leave you a book like a Bible you have been wanting for some time, or if "bad" they may put needles or pins in your mattress. I know it sounds crazy but there are some who definitely are crazy, who will literally do anything for "God's organization on earth"! I've heard them say "maybe we are a cult but we AREN'T DANGEROUS." I disagree. They are a danger to less-knowing, trusting members and potentially to other authorities and human society in general. (Ro 13:1)
Legends often have a basis of truth in them, including in the kingdom of the cults.
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BILL BOWEN R U THERE?
by plmkrzy in"why is bill bowen not df'd or d'ad or shunned?
" he is "in good standing" is he not or was that a false statement?
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anewperson
Plum irritates me too especially with the name-calling and may be a troll/poser but it is also possible s/he is simply a bit of an off-balanced wacko or a natural-born whiner. Chronologically or socially maybe even a child.
In any case, Plum, as Bill alludes to, the silentlamb's website also includes a toll-free number. Call it and you can talk to a real human. If Bill can't answer email fast enough for you staff supporters can.
See, Plum, I was nice to you...... kind of. As to Bill being a flesh-and-blood "for real" - not just a made-up cyber-persona - ask yourself if the New York Post, Chicago Sun and other papers writing about him and silentlambs.org are "fake." No, they are very real as are the lawsuits starting up against the arrogant Watchtower Society misleadership and their local toadies.
Now Plum, please answer, are "YOU" "for real?" Please prove it. :)
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Recovery Workshop for Former Group Members
by Dogpatch inrecovery workshop for former group members .
friday 3:00 p.m. july 12, 2002 to sunday 3:00 p.m. july 14, 2002. st. malo retreat and conference center, estes park, colorado (1 hr.
nw of denver).
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anewperson
Yes, it's good these things exist. Not all need them but all too many do and will benefit greatly. Pressure techniques are common regardless of groups or doctrines.
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BILL BOWEN R U THERE?
by plmkrzy in"why is bill bowen not df'd or d'ad or shunned?
" he is "in good standing" is he not or was that a false statement?
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anewperson
Plum, if having 2 or so screen names makes people fakes then many on this board are fakes. Many have an extra screen name because they post a lot and there's a limit to the number of posts per screen name. Checking the directory closely you will find that some have 5 or 6 screen names. I don't. You don't like me because I will name names which hurts the WTS but which you say I shouldn't do. In turn don't like your censoring attitude, whining and profanities. Tough, Plum, but lay off Bill who is fighting for the kids grandkids and really all of us. Right now he may be too busy to answer any emails you may be sending him because those are probably also going through the police since he posted here that he had gotten a death threat and we all advised him to take it to the police. He is a real human, believe me.
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discussion w/ Barbara G. Harrison today
by Dogpatch ini just got off the phone with author barbara grizzuti harrison (visions of glory; italian days, etc.
) who is currently living in brooklyn and has serious health problems.
she is now 67, but is very mentally alert and still has an excellent sense of humor!
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anewperson
The endnotes are also valuable for research. Please include them.