anewperson

Joined

• started 0 topics
• posted 722 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by anewperson

• 
  11

  Bowen in Christianity Today

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  article in latest christianity today:.

  http://christianitytoday.aol.com/ct/2001/004/23.html.

  http://www.freeminds.org.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  anewperson

  Looks like tons of pedophilia cases are all over the United States. The article mentions this one in Utah:

  In another instance, Sabrina Montgomery, a 37-year-old former Witness in Brigham City, Utah, alleges that her father, John Bohman, sexually abused her from when she was 14 until she was 19. When Witness elders found out, she says, Bohman simply resigned his position as an elder, and no further action was taken. Montgomery has asked local authorities to prevent any contact between her three daughters and Bohman. Montgomery's former husband is still a Witness, and maintains regular contact with Bohman. Bohman did not respond to CT's requests for an interview

  Call them Confidential Files as the article does or call them Secret Sin Files, they are "Dirt Files." If the Watchtower Society thinks they must keep mud on people then the least they could do is let the rank-and-file see what the mud is so that it can be challenged and cleared away where it proves false. Currently these sin or dirt files are kept in hall and copies sent to Bethel branches and Brooklyn's Bethel down in the basement. They are full of distortions and lies harming not only child victims but adults. The U.S. Government should regulate such record-keeping for fairness as the European Union does.

  Dateline NBC, other media, U.S. Govt., are you listening?!
• 
  3

  TheStreet.com on Biopure's problems (again)

  by hawkaw in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if people on the board have been following along, biopure recently announced last week how great their cow's (bovine) blood product (hemoglobin based) is.

  this is important to the witness community because this product may save jw lives who are now allowed to take hemoglobin (of course to non-jws, we wonder out loud how stored cow's blood is okay when the watchtower tells the press and jws that transfusions are not allowed because blood must be poured on the ground).

  the company's (biopure's) upbeat press release occurred after "thestreet.com" found out problems with biopure and reported the safety concerns about the hemoglobin from cow's blood product.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  anewperson

  Good points. Could someone please try to find out if the Watchtower Society may directly or through fronting-parties have stock in the biopure company? I will also email the gist of what you say to [email protected] for possible publication for the egroup readership. People need to be warned that there might be not only shaky science here but a hidden vested interest on the part of the WTS!
• 
  133

  BERRY LAWSUIT EVALUATED

  by MadApostate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would like to preface my discussion of the recently filed berry lawsuit with several remarks.

  first, i am not an attorney, and my only connection with the legal profession is that which occasionally arises out of my personal or business affairs.

  second, i have no access to court records, opinions, etc., other than what is available via internet search engines.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  anewperson

  The WTS's goal in posting here is at least partly to draw out the opponent law firm's strategy, the reasoning that will be applied in court aforehand. Having such fore-knowledge enables them to better prepare against that reasoning, to try to cloud it in court etc.

  Happily however, even though knowing it they still cannot stand against it; further, Anderson & Reinhardt can also anticipate the WTS attorneys coming application of dodging and obfuscation methods. Mad would seem to either work for the WTS if not as an attorney then possibly as a paralegal doing preliminary footwork for what little good it will do them.
• 
  15

  Erica's 98 Sentencing Hearing

  by silentlambs in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  below are listed quotes form the 1998 sentencing hearing for manuel beliz, the man who molested erica.. do you see any similarity between this and the berry sentencing?

  why are jehovahs witnesses so keen to have convicted child molesters keep their children?

  also unique in this hearing brother beliz asks to speak.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  anewperson

  You were up late when writing so probably in a hurry to get this up and therefore you put in the heading Proof JWs love...; instead Proof the WTS love... would be better. There are plenty of our JW families & friends who don't love pedophile babysitters. Still, I know what you mean! Thanks for all your hard work.
• 
  36

  Does Genesis Teach a Local Flood?

  by JanH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to the homepage for ray franz' commentary press, and i found an article there promoting the idea that genesis teaches a local flood.

  the author believes the genesis flood actually happened, as a local event, and that an ark actually were floating on top of local flood waters in the mesopotamia area some thousand years ago.

  i recognized many arguments from a talk carl olof jonsson gave at a "christian freedom" seminar in sweden in, i think, 1996, so i guess that this article, too, is written by coj.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  anewperson

  I never said it was local or global or neither.

  If the satellite were to show that there were remains of a huge ship there that would not necessarily prove there had been or not been a GLOBAL flood; but it would add credence to the idea that there had been a flood that even if not global was nevertheless locally of ESTRAORDINARY elevation.

  In fact even as we discuss this there is an actual underwater expedition going on in the Black Sea which is just north of Ararat. Scientists are endeavoring to bring up more information regarding a huge flood that they feel may have occured when ancient glaciers suddenly broke through the Bosphorus Straits. Had you not read of that?
• 
  36

  Does Genesis Teach a Local Flood?

  by JanH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to the homepage for ray franz' commentary press, and i found an article there promoting the idea that genesis teaches a local flood.

  the author believes the genesis flood actually happened, as a local event, and that an ark actually were floating on top of local flood waters in the mesopotamia area some thousand years ago.

  i recognized many arguments from a talk carl olof jonsson gave at a "christian freedom" seminar in sweden in, i think, 1996, so i guess that this article, too, is written by coj.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  anewperson

  I didn't conjecture one way or the other but said let's see what the satellite photos eventually show. That's reasonable wouldn't you agree.
• 
  36

  Does Genesis Teach a Local Flood?

  by JanH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to the homepage for ray franz' commentary press, and i found an article there promoting the idea that genesis teaches a local flood.

  the author believes the genesis flood actually happened, as a local event, and that an ark actually were floating on top of local flood waters in the mesopotamia area some thousand years ago.

  i recognized many arguments from a talk carl olof jonsson gave at a "christian freedom" seminar in sweden in, i think, 1996, so i guess that this article, too, is written by coj.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  anewperson

  No, Nathan, if the photos show a boat keel, say, then there will be renewed interest in trying to gain Turkish permission to explore the site on foot. This is a bona fide satellite mission. Lets all keep our minds open to whatever the scientists finally say, whether it upholds or demolishes our own current views.
• 
  42

  Aliens having some fun??

  by Okidok in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this formation appeared as usually suddenly last sunday at wherwell,hampshire.

  this can not be called crop circle.

  lots of spots are making a pattern of a face.. this image maker is clever whoever it is.. .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  anewperson

  Maybe we should tell Kent about this thread. Daniel once said he also finds discussions of extraterrestrial lifeforms very interesting.

  :)
• 
  36

  Does Genesis Teach a Local Flood?

  by JanH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to the homepage for ray franz' commentary press, and i found an article there promoting the idea that genesis teaches a local flood.

  the author believes the genesis flood actually happened, as a local event, and that an ark actually were floating on top of local flood waters in the mesopotamia area some thousand years ago.

  i recognized many arguments from a talk carl olof jonsson gave at a "christian freedom" seminar in sweden in, i think, 1996, so i guess that this article, too, is written by coj.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  anewperson

  If the satellite shows wooden beams in a rib-pattern for a ship sitting on top of Ararat, it will matter a great deal. And if not, it will still matter a great deal.

  In the past 1-2 years it's been shown that many of our largest domesticated animals orginated in Turkey. Also some grains. Someone asked why the need to take in land animals if the flood was localized. If these were the only domesticated cattle etc, then that necessity is readily explained.
• 
  36

  Does Genesis Teach a Local Flood?

  by JanH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to the homepage for ray franz' commentary press, and i found an article there promoting the idea that genesis teaches a local flood.

  the author believes the genesis flood actually happened, as a local event, and that an ark actually were floating on top of local flood waters in the mesopotamia area some thousand years ago.

  i recognized many arguments from a talk carl olof jonsson gave at a "christian freedom" seminar in sweden in, i think, 1996, so i guess that this article, too, is written by coj.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  anewperson

  In October of 2001, therefore very soon, a satellite will go up and take pictures for a predetermined mission but will beyond those will also seek to take close-ups of Mt Ararat. This was noted on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jahchristian

  QUICKBIRD SATELLITE TO SCAN MOUNT ARARAT: On October 18, 2001, the QuickBird 2 satellite launches from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California and if all goes well will focus on objects down to nearly 20-inches (one-half meter) across and will take some images of an anomaly apparently more than 600-feet long (183 meters) upon Mount Ararat that some have speculated are remains of Noah's ark. Chuck Herring, EarthWatch spokesman, says the company will work in the image-taking as it fits in the mission plan. Also hyperspectral imagery from space offers great promise. It identifies natural and human-made materials on Earth's surface by their unique signatures of reflected light from the Sun.

  The source from which the article was condensed is:

  http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/planetearth/noahs_ark_010823-
  1.html

  So this should help some with the debate.