There's nothing to matter with mentioning God by any reputable name or title like Jah/Yah/Yahweh/Jehovah/Lord/our Father and clearly distinguishing that the wrongs are being done by evil men. All good things come from God and Bill is doing a good deed to both his credit and God's. Up with Jah, down with the Watchtower. Perhaps you are an atheist.
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Silentlambs: Modern-day Folk Hero?
by Derrick inhe's the "knight in shining armor" for many young ones across the globe, who were spared from predators moving in for the kill.
who was instrumental amongst jehovah's witnesses in chasing these monsters off?
it should have been brothers in the watchtower society.
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Silentlambs: Modern-day Folk Hero?
by Derrick inhe's the "knight in shining armor" for many young ones across the globe, who were spared from predators moving in for the kill.
who was instrumental amongst jehovah's witnesses in chasing these monsters off?
it should have been brothers in the watchtower society.
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anewperson
All true. May Jah bless the Little Ones some of whom are now adults. May they all get to stand taller and with far greater joy than the powerful ones whom He shall shatter by the might of the real Truth in the news spotlight. May it be a spiritual Armageddon for those calling themselves and their toadies the "glorious ones" even while they wink at:
the pedophilia coverup policy
the death-causing blood policy
the invasions of privacy
the harassmentand all the other bad fruits of darkness.
Long live the "Free Christians" movement. Up with Jah, Down with the Watchtower!"
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Silentlambs: Modern-day Folk Hero?
by Derrick inhe's the "knight in shining armor" for many young ones across the globe, who were spared from predators moving in for the kill.
who was instrumental amongst jehovah's witnesses in chasing these monsters off?
it should have been brothers in the watchtower society.
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anewperson
I believe others before Bill also tried to publicise the problem but were intimidated, mocked as crazy etc. Happily, though Bill was taken seriously very quickly via the papers and TV because of his many years as a JW elder. For that matter right now those who say that some JWs have been physically intimidated and have suffered experiences that show in some instances electronic devises are being employed for surveillance and harassment, etc are also being mocked as crazy or called liars even by opponents of the Watchtower Society who themselves never had such experiences and say they never heard of such. Yet it is true and with time these other concerns will also be made better known faster thanks to the internet. Bill Bowen is a hero. Let us pray for more heroes to stand up and lay naked the other excesses by those fanatical in playing "the faithful and discrete slave" for the WATCHtower Society. May these be the real and enduring "Last Days" for tyranny by the Watchtower as a religious cult whose policies also have caused thousands of our JW loved ones to bleed to death from the false policy regarding blood transfusions.
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How Do You Get Someone Out? (Part 1)
by Mindchild inpart 1. i thought it might be advantageous to discuss effective ways of getting someone out of the borg and to dispel some myths we might be entertaining about beliefs and changing them.
in this thread i was hoping to start a discussion about the sociology of the witness belief system and how this can be used to help people escape from the mental trap they have found themselves in.
the first outside book i ever read about jws was in the late 1970s by james beckford.
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anewperson
The 4 steps would be useful in the right, go-slowly situation and for some people might be the only thing to work, but for the quicker direct approach the following is also effective as it embodies love, documented facts, brevity & notes acceptable wholesome alternatives. Or combine both approaches... what works for one person doesn't for the other... decides what's best for the given person as you know them best, i.e. are what are their own concerns, likelihood of responding to a slow/fast/moderate, logical/emotional/both approach? Anyway, this below and similar items have helped many people now for several years. Just copy & mail/email it in whole or part:
LOVING OUR JEHOVAH'S WITNESS FAMILY & FRIENDS, we're informing the Congregation & Public with documentated facts exposing misleadership by Watchtower Society (WTS) heads over our JW loved ones: Christ said families would be divided by some members doing good & others doing wrongs but never ever advocated destruction of families. 1 Cor 6:1 only says judge "trivial" things as in business, James 2:4-13 calls judging harmful, & Paul says the "majority" (2 Cor 2:6), followed his advice to shun a wrongdoer, meaning a minority chose not to & yet he nowhere condemns them. So we ask why the formal Judicial Committes destroying families via numerous formal renderings of disfellowshipment (shunning)? Acts 15:20 says abstain from blood but 1 Sam 14:32-5 says Saul's army ate unBLED meat to not starve & no verses show God not forgiving them plus Christ (Mat 7) says God also forgave David's eating temple holy bread & that God wants Mercy Not Sacrifice. The May 22, 1994 Awake tells of 26 JW kids who died without transfusions, & by common sense in massive bleeding as in car wrecks blood expanders won't save lives (ajwrb.org). An estimated 3 JWs die daily earthwide from the WTS’s unscriptural policy (Blood On The Altar)! Why should our kids, grandkids etc be endangered?
Members are told report on each other though the Bible condemns busy-bodying. Page 302 in the Daniel book and pages 88 and 651 in the Proclaimers book show photos of the Knights Templar swords and the cross-with-crown-and-wreath used by Masons who sometimes use "Theocratic Warfare" tactics to change members' personalities on early WTS’s literature. Some old WT books also have the winged sun god Ra on front covers - never a Christian symbol. Nor are regular JWs allowed to read Judicial Committee "sin files" on themselves, many not knowing they exist; often with misinformation.(photos: freeminds.org) See also picture of Pay Attention To Yourselves And All The Flock book on p 232 of the Insight book that elders have but which non-elders are not allowed to read.
Christ was likely born about Oct 2, so why ignore his being conceived 9 months earlier was in late December? Why insist Christmas is from the pagan Saturnalia when John 10:22-3 says Christ also celebrated the Festival of Dedication or Lights, i.e. Hannukah, which first began Dec 25 but has varied since because lunar-based? Job 1:3, 3:1 & 3:3 show Job's kids celebrated birthdays if you read all 3 verses to see day of birth is meant. Didn't angels celebrate Christ's birth? Santa is from Nicholas, a Christian, not a wizard or pagan god. Why call compromises holidays that attacked & replaced paganisms? Doesn’t Colossians 2:16 say let none judge you about a holiday. WTS heads say the Trinity is believing Father, Son, Spirit are 1 "identical" person yet most churches accept it as 3 totally different entities or persons forming 1 "Godship" (Ro 1:20), Son & Spirit sharing inherited age, power, knowledge from God just as an acorn may be only 1 day old but also have its genes inheriting its ancestral oak tree's age, capacity & information. Human remains & inscriptions show archaeologists the stauros was a cross not stake, Dr F Zugibe's research shows suffocation would be in minutes if on a stake but in hours if on outstretched cross per Lu 23:44 & Mat 27:45-6. Leaders call a cross is a repugnant murder weapon but Paul said boast in it as a symbol of resurrection over death. (Ga 6:14, 1Cor 1:17-18)
Elders often hide local scandals. Leo Greenlees was a child molester fellow Governing Body members over JWs reassigned but never disfellowshipped (excommunicated) in the 1980s (jehovahs-witness.com in the archives, etc), & to date child abuse by Watchtower Society (WTS) associates is still officially covered up, causing costly destructive court costs and reproach including articles in Christianity Today, Dateline NBC investigations etc. For copies of letters to Bodies Of Elders regular members aren't shown including on child abuse see: http://www.silentlambs.org, freeminds.org, observer.org. JWs' kids & grandkids deserve to be safe. Some members in such coverup places complain of physical harassment (poking, shoving etc), hints that "Jehovah’s eyes are everywhere" & elders detailing their most private conversations & bedroom doings with their own marriage mates. WTS articles told elders not to “police” bedrooms in 1978 but later in a talk (but not in writing) in 1983 told regular members "The Practice" of some marital intimacies can lead to Expulsion. (discussed on Jehovahs-Witness.com) Some regular JWs absent that evening have been "expelled" (harassed/trained) without clearly aware why. Contrast this to the pedophilia coverups. "Insight" book articles are on all Bible books except Song of Solomon/Canticles which has much positive marital imagery contrasting with the Gov Body’s views of what is “holy.” Instructed to keep such things "in-house" when asked most elders deny the 1983-onwards policy to protect the Gov Body. WTS heads teach God does not like the UN but until exposed 1991-2001 the WTS was a formal UN associate, not just a UN library card user as claimed. Read the Nov 22, 1998 Awake magazine very closely. Also http://www.thetablet.co.uk/cgi-bin/archive_db.cgi?tablet-00577
This is to help our JW family & friends but exposes the misleadership over our loved ones! They are told they must not read this material if given it by hand, but when e/mailed it most do quietly read it, some exit, most feel angry at first then quietly decrease donations to the WTS etc, if not baptized a JW stay that way etc. Some form nonWTS groups or are independent Christians noting when Paul said there's only "1 faith" the WTS didn't exist so true Christianity is all true Christians over the centuries. If a JW this may be from family or friends though originally from jahchristian at yahoo.com. Please make & share copies.
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These letters will blow your mind!
by Dogpatch inthese letters will blow your mind!.
it's hard to beleive that one or two small-minded men in the service dept.
could be responsible for thousands of medical emergencies going bad or even death.
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Thanks, Randy, for doing what was right without waiting any longer for ajwrb which was extremely inactive in 2001. May God's Spirit and the voices of those who bled to death and have been shouting for justic bless you infinitely for such goodness.
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Kingdom Ministry School for Congregational Elders
by Kent inkingdom ministry school for congregational elders.
for the 2002 service year .
hi folks!.
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Will somebody who can get to and hear the files Kent speaks of summarize them here, please. Some of us are around other people at a library or in a home who are possibly pro-Watchtower and so we can't be hearing audio stuff so freely.
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Silentlambs, here's more legal ammo
by Derrick inlatimes.com - the nation, january 16, 2002. catholic church faces scrutiny in pedophilia case.
religion: ex-priest's criminal trial is to open today, and the boston cardinal has been sued for his handling of the scores of accusations.
by elizabeth mehren, times staff writer.
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Agreed. Thanks to Bill & those helping him including his wife and the victims.
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Okay Bible Supporters: Support this One
by FreePeace inthere have been so many bible thumping posts lately, i thought i would offer an anti-bible article from my truthquest website.
i wait with bated breath to see how bible supporters will rationalize and explain this one.. .
atrocities of the bible: the midianites .
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The women were not raped but preserved alive as females servants who might or might not be taken as wives later.
Many Midianite men and women were killed, just as also at Sodom and Gomorrah, but they can all be resurrected (Jn 3:16).
You made a point to call God "evil" for taking their lives and now in fairness will you call God merciful for His plan to restore their lives? Answer this question please.
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WT Advance Directive - Just the Facts
by Lee Elder inwt advance directive.
there is substantial discussion of this topic in a previous thread that contains the opinions, some informed - some not, regarding the validity of the directive.
i believe that a useful place to begin is by reviewing the medical literature.
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anewperson
The ajwrb merited an A+ back in 2000, an F in 2001. I do lie in saying there has been a relative hiatus.
The point about not getting a monument to the dead on any city park's property is well-taken, but there are private parks even in cities, and if you can't find one in any then put if not a boulder then a sign or billboard up along a highway on a willing farmer's property.
Mad, you are probing with the KY or TN speculation. I myself would guess you are a Texas cowboy who loves cows wearing pretty hats to go by your picture.
I'm on Lee's side but say we need more and stronger action. Also the questions about Wayne's tenure were not answered. I believe maybe Lee got ajwrb off to a great start, Wayne did much but then in 2001 mostly there was inaction. As said I'm not here to have a word-fight but to urge more and stronger action. If ajwrb won't act then others must. I am not an "outed" person able to do all the things some of you are free to do. Wish I were but as you may have noticed I sure do the best I can given the circumstances.
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How Active was the WT in the UN?
by VM44 inthe watchtower claims that it became a nco recognized by the un.
in order that they could use the un library for research.. but, the ngos have to fullfill yearly requirements promoting.
un ideals, this the wt did by publishing articles in the awake!.
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P.S. Mad, I do not accept your calling me Jahidiot, jahnuts and the like. You appear very knowledgeable as shown in your posting about the WTS's interrelationship with the UN's religious tolerance concerns including free speach by atheists. Are you a member of an atheists for free speech type group by any chance?