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  I going to picket my parents convention this weekend!

  by Atilla in

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  ok, my parents have pissed me off so much with their denial and their refusal to even acknowledge my complaints against the borg.

  they pretend everything is perfect at the kingdom hall and expect me to play nice to their dub friends so as to protect their own reputation.

  this weekend in philadelphia, they are going to to their little convention and i have some evil thoughts.

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  cyber-sista

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/68587/1.ashx

  This is a topic I did a while back and I thought some of the suggestions some others came up with were good.
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  How about using their own illustrations?

  by Doubtfully Yours in

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  a long time ago, while giving bible studies to poor unsuspecting souls, i used one of their illustrations when people claimed that other religions had a lot of good things, and it went something like this:.

  "yes, but would you drink a glass of water where most of it was good but it had a just a drop of poison in it?".

  then, i was just thinking this very morning.... i'll from now on use that same illustration on them, regarding issues like the un, the spousal abuse, or the child molestation!.

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  DY,

  This would be a great illustration to use in regards to many WT related things. Somebody brought up the point the other day that you would be accused of apostasy if you were following and speaking of the teachings of the WT in years past. This was really brought home to me when the elders and the society gave me some old WT articles to counsel me--some of them from the 1960s. Those articles were right next to some others which are now considered old light and would be considered apostate or thinking if I were to spread those ideas around. So is studying in the WT (especially in past years) like drinking a glass of water with a little bit of poison in it?
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  "Those days will be cut short " - question

  by Sirona in

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  2. beliefs

  my jw friend (the only one who does keep in touch) is really considering "fading".. the trouble is that she was raised a jw and is finding it all really difficult, plus her father is a prominent jw.. she mentioned to me the scripture (matthew?

  ) that says that the last days would have to be cut short for the sake of the holy ones.

  she says they always taught that this referred to the anointed and that they'd all die off if jehovah didn't cut short the days of the time of the end.. she says that if they ever change thoughts on this doctrine she would immediately leave.

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  I do remember that "the sake of the holy ones" referred to the annointed. I was baptized inthe 80s and this was the teaching then. I don't remember it changing, but they probably slipped the change in some boring WT article somewhere in hopes that everyone would just glaze over it.
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  Theocratic Software

  by Larry in

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  fyi - stumbled over this website.

  http://www.savardsoftware.com/servicerecord/theocratic ministry school softwarecongregation publisher filetheocratic ministry school schedulingtheocratic research utilitiespalm service recordcongregation desktop organizer .

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  cyber-sista

  How do they get the information for all of this in advance to make the software? They must have some kind of connections to the top for that.
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  lonliness after leaving

  by orbison11 in

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  just wondering, did any of you become hermit like after leaving.

  i see many of you are able to carry on.

  maybe with the help of non-jw family, etc.. but for me, i lost all family and i am having a hard time with acquiring friends, although i have many many aquaintances.

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  cyber-sista

  Aloha Orbi,

  Still transitioning myself, but do have the support of some unbelieving family and friends. I wasn't raised a JW so I imagine this makes it easier in many ways. Making friends just happens and it is a rather magical thing. There is chemistry between people or something that is beyond logic and words. Sometimes you just meet people and it clicks and after talking for a short period of time you feel like you have known them forever. Some friendships take a while to get going--just being familiar with someone over a period of time can nurture a long time friendship. Everybody is different. Most everybody is a little bit strange in one way or another. Just accept people and they will accept you. You don't have to make friends with people who are exactly like yourself either. Some of my most interesting friendships are with people who have different lifestyles and interests than myself, but they are interesting people nonetheless, I enjoy their company and we all learn new and different things from each other. Taking classes is one of the best ways to meet people, I think. Workshops, hobby classes, Thai chi, whatever-- even taking a CPR class is interactive. Volunteer jobs and workplaces such as restaurants and resorts are great places to make connections with people. Generally you don't have to work at it--just share your life and self with others and friends will happen.

  Your friend,

  cybs
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  In All Honesty, Are You A Happier Person Now Than when You Were A JW?

  by minimus in

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  jws say, "the apostates are miserable!!

  ".....do you feel miserable?

  (i don't).

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  I am also still in a transition time and feeling a bit down at times, but at the same time enjoying my freedom. Nice to get off that stressful JW treadmill--no more rushing meals to get to the meeting on time,hurrying to wash and iron my frumpy meeting clothes, hurrying to get my book/bible study done, feeling guilty about getting together with people who I genuinely like, worrying that I haven't put enough "time" in at the end of the month and that list goes on and on. I am starting to do new things ( hobbies and interests) and such that I enjoyed before coming into the Org and making more connections with old and new friends outside of the Org. I still feel like I am on the treadmill at times and have this feeling that I am never doing enough--or getting enough done (probably a JW flashback). I am sad for the many people I have had to leave behind, but don't miss the religious routine in the least. I am trying to slow down to the speed of life and take time to smell the flowers and all that. I am happier, but in a bitter sweet sort of a way.
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  Your worst Watchtower Study ever?

  by Celtic in

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  what article was it when you were a witness that was the most complicated for you to understand?

  i remember that there were a right few beaut's, dad being the wt conductor, of course we had to go through the finer detail getting to the most indepth meaning and how it linked up.

  hmmmmmmm.. what was your worst watchtower study ever then?

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  One of the most painful WT studies was after a well liked sister in the congo had died tragically. The WT study that week was really a weird one--this was a few years back and it started out something about dead bodies and the worms crawling in and out of them (some kind of grumsome biblical stuff.) The brother reading the article couldn't make it through the first morbid paragraph and started to cry. Many others started to cry to (myself included). This morbid study article was like a bad dream to the grieving audience. Another less sensitive brother got up and took over the reading. The whole thing was very painful.
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  Were You Treated With Respect When Counseled By The Elders?

  by minimus in

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  i knew a certain few elders that really got off by "talking down" to the "flock".

  many elders were pretty nice guys but a few could turn----just like that!

  what was your experience with "those taking the lead", the "loving shepherds"???

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  The elders talked to me like a child--very kindly, but what they said was horrific and still causes me nightmares at times. They had very sick minds.
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  We need solid advice from former Elders

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  almost unbelievably after 4 years of staying away from the hall and the jws last week they called and said there were allegations of apostasy against us.

  we have been very quiet about our feelings and so were very surprised and angered.

  we were told that they were going to discuss the allegation and determine if we would be formally accused of apostasy.

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  Peacefulpete...I'm obviously not an elder, but I can tell you for certain there is no particular rhyme nor reason for what elders do in some congos. I also became painfully aware that there is no real organized organization out there. I wrote the society begging for help in regard to my former congregation of elders who were "beating the flock." In the end nobody came to our defense--but the branch, CO and the society defended the elders. These guys can do just about anything they want and it depends on who the elders are in your area whether you treatment will be fair or not. The organization is much like a disorganized government with a crappy legal system and no clear direction from the top. I am so sorry this is happening to you. I too am on the fade, but would not be surprised if this sort of thing will happen to me one day. Please keep us posted. I am still trying to figure out how to handle myself with this whole situation. Again, I am sorry you have to go through this. The best to you and your wife. Tell your family you love them--unconditionally--maybe they will be stumbled out of the Org after seeing the unfair treatment you have received.

  Cybs
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  WT expansion and enslavement of the 3rd world...

  by cyber-sista in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as some of you know i still receive some of those dopey jw forwards from those who are trying to encourage me to come back to the organization.

  this recent one i received was a bit more informative as to the workings of the organization.

  i don't think this sister knows who passed this one on to her and i'm sure it wasn't meant to go out over the whole internet.

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  XQ...I agree with you on some levels. Before the missionaries came here to Hawaii the religion wasn't all that great either--human sacrifice was practiced along with many restrictions and class distinctions. The missinaries changed some things fo the better, but made many other things much worse. The whole point is while there are some well meaning one in the Org--the missionaries, etc. I don't believe the expansion of the Organization there is because of the goodness of their hearts--they are not there for a self sacrificing purpose.

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  XQ, Being that the WT has ripped off some of our money and some of our family and friends--I put them in the "villain" class