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  How do they know?

  by desib77 in

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  this kind of goes along with all of the posts recently about the memorial.

  when my mother explained the annointed to me when i was young i asked how someone would know if they were part of the annointed.

  she told me, "they just know.

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  at some point in my exit from the org, i started to figure that my childhood/youth/young manhood religion i thought was clear and uncluttered by false religion actually contained many 'mysteries' like catholicism

  i once read 'the two babylons', a book you once, not so long ago, could order from the wts (as well as the 8 translation so-called christian greek scriptures) and it discussed at length the mysteries of the religious past

  the 'spirit reckoning with their spirit' thus, they KNOW, has always been a hard one for me to understand/swallow and is another jw 'mystery' imo.

  hope to get to the bottom of that one someday, but actually don't really presently care that much.

  I guess i'm still at the 'its all bs' stage right now and am trying to reset the hard drive on this stuff

  boa

  most i have known are gentle, nice people, though that is very few. one of them was about 30, at bethel, and a genius (so they say), and a real source of question for many
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  Radio Interview on the JWs tomorrow

  by jschwehm in

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  hi gang:.

  i am being interviewed about the jws tomorrow morning at 7:30 am central time on the nationally syndicated radio program "morning air with jeff cavins".

  you can listen on-line at www.relevantradio.com.

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  I'll try to listen in - i believe that is 0530hrs pt

  thanks for the headsup

  boa
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  The Paradigm Shift that Will Break the Watchtower

  by metatron in

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  so, where is the world headed?.

  http://www.dailynews.com/stories/0,1413,200~20954~2046024,00.html.

  cloning is becoming an ordinary fact.

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  I think there are many who are on the verge of cracking in the org anyway and just need the confidence and understanding of all the various 'something elses' out there

  I hope a big change comes soon for the sake of some pretty good friends and family I have. Oh, so selfish of me I know

  boa

  just waitin' for it
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  "Are you going to the memorial...?"

  by Winston Smith :>D in

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  "are you going to the memorial...?

  that's the question i hear this morning from my wife in-between the daily ritual of smacking the snooze button.. i was still getting the sleep out of my eyes, so i had to think for a second if i was dreaming and if i had really da'd myself last year or not.. *check.

  yep, that really happened*.

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  Winston Smith,

  I'm not going for the reasons you state. Will be the first time missing in over 30 yrs of my life. Should be some interesting fallout but I think (hope) I am ready to stand up to it.

  boa

  btw, I would love to discuss the finer points of an internal combustion engine with someone - my chosen trade!
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  Beware the voice of strangers...

  by flower in

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  i havent really been keeping up with the latest garbage being spewed forth from the wts to its members, but stumbled on this little gem from

  http://quotes.watchtower.ca/bewarethevoiceofstrangers.htm

  i'm sure this has been mentioned before and i missed it but i enjoyed this talk.

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  voice of strangers or strange voices, its all the same schmozzel to me.

  can't wait for something BIG to happen to shake up this org but i also can't wait so I won't thats why my family and I are OUT.

  can't believe it took so long to figure it all out, then after all the hard work was done, i found this website, coc and everything else and it was a big WHEW, glad that former bs is OVER!

  boa
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  About To Read Some Apostate Stuff.

  by Corvin in

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  i just purchased, at amazon.com, and i am anxiously awaiting the arrival of, two of raymond franz's books, crisis of conscience and the other one .

  christian freedom i think it was called.

  for those who have read them; would you please give some sort of brief review of these books and rate them either "

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  read coc in a few days. I couldn't put it down. I was born in a jdub fam and raised/indoctrinated all my yrs until my brain started to reassert itself around 6 yrs ago. It has taken all those yrs to get to the point where I didn't have any significant fear of 'outside' information and flukily enough ended up here first.

  I had borrowed coc from the library (a well worn copy heh heh) and after reading it (very painful at times), I ordered a bunch of others from commentary press, namely, my own copy of the newest edition of coc, isocf, the last days (carl jonsson) and the gentile times - reconsidered (carl jonsson) and will soon order j. pentons book - apocalypse delayed(his other jw book, heh heh, post jw).

  I'm a reader so I'll go through them all although coc so far has been the best. To me the other books are my help to figure out the doctrinal stuff as well as be prepared for the myriads of relatives I must 'save'.

  new light, you said it

  boa

  boy, dem books is real good eh
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  A lot of new people lately

  by Elsewhere in

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  is it just me or has the last six months or so brought in a very large number of new users?

  simon, are there any stats to show if this is true or not?.

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  yup, lotsa newbies including myself of ~6wks vintage (jeece can't wait to make it to the next level past 'newbie'! - must be a ladder climbing habit I still have from the org)

  welcome maya - looking forward to your story.

  For me, finding this site has changed my life in that it showed me all the things i was thinking and had figured out were in common with many many other people. That, and finding reference to coc, isocf, carl jonssons books changed my understanding a lot

  boa
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  The Memorial

  by Paradise Found in

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  to me it used to stand for something.

  .represent something...... now i think it is something un-holy and evil.......with a lot of sincere people attending.... so beside it all its still a very special ocassion?

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  yup, not going for the first time this year in over 30 yrs. felt strange at first to make this decision but it is based on 'i don't believe the wts has the 'truth' ' so why would i waste my time with another boring and deceptive talk?

  i don't believe i should be partaking either so I won't do that at home or at a khall (but wow what a way to go - a man of my age and my wife partaking!)

  boa
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  If You Could Tell Brooklyn Just One Thing

  by Englishman in

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  you're angry and thoroughly pissed off with all things apertaining to jehovah's witnesses.. you also know that this thread will be read by active jw's.

  some of those jw's will be in the brooklyn bethel right now, reading what you write.. so, is there one thing, one belief, one policy, that, if it were to be changed or anulled, would mollify you?.

  is there one change that they could make that would stop or lessen the active antagonism that you feel against the wt?.

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  Since your post asked if one thing could make a change in my view of the org, to mollify me, I would say no, there is nothing that can resurrect the paper tiger now.

  If they were salvageable, then at this point in time I would say come clean on the whole 607 bs - it is SOOO obvious all the real issues and proof against this date, are ignored by their writers. WHY??? Because they don't have, nor will they ever have an answer! And I really hate being lied to - damn!

  boa

  the whole idea of any salvation for this org is ridiculous to me. I liked what scully said. I might even 'donate' to get a copy of that issue - HEH HEH.

  The one thing that would mollify me would be to see a Watchtower magazine that said:

  FINAL ISSUE

  And the one single article in it outlined all their errors, outright lies, scandals and deceptions.

  The last paragraph of that issue would read:

  We were wrong, so very very wrong. We have misled all of you nice people for over a century, and we are very sorry. We have liquidated all the holdings of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and its subsidiaries, and every Jehovah's Witness around the world will be receiving an equal share of the proceeds. We hope you will all accept our heartfelt and sincere apologies to each and every one of you.

  Love, Scully
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  Did You Ever "Report" Someone To The Elders?

  by minimus in

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  were you a snitch or a secret-keeper?

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  yes, i was the usual dumb bastard jw youth just doing what i was brought up with and turned in a guy who admitted some petting or something. I did at least approach him first before ratting him out - wow that really got me some bonus points in heaven i'm sure.

  the other time was more 'consultation' with the po in our hall when i was in early teens. I wondered if i should still associate with my dad (he had minimum visitation rights).He was df'd, had a coupla playboys stashed, had saturday night fever album, and was seen once by me, lying outside in the open yard under a blanket with his girlfriend (no action going on, just lying there). But as you all know, just lying near someone or if yer vehicle is parked over night at some females house, it means yer bangin' her by jws. I cut off visitation rights and was supported by said elder and other family.

  the first story, the bro wasn't pissed off, the second story horribly hurt my father although we associated later on plus he was reinstated a while after that time.

  now i'm a little down, but great topic, lest we forget,

  boa