Posts by Incognito

But, the next sentence is written badly: “They seemed to take okay and asked us if we would like to pick them at 9:30 before the meeting”🤔.. Whatever does this mean?? - LHG

LHG, I think Dano is saying that his children will continue to visit overnight at the JWs home, but he is expected to retrieve the children on Sunday before 9:30 am so the JWs may attend their meeting.

While Dano may have made it clear that he does not want his children to attend JW meetings, that will not prevent the JWs from conducting at-home studies or discussing/teaching JW beliefs.

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Will you attend the Memorial 2020 ? - Covid-19 (Coronavirus)

by bats in the belfry in

... or rather listen to the advice on their jw news website:.

show love to others.

while we all know the importance of attending christian meetings and participating in the public ministry, if you are sick, it is best to stay home to avoid infecting others.

Incognito

Although McDonalds, Tim Horton's and some other food outlets had adopted filling customer's reusable cups to reduce the number of disposables, as a precaution, many food outlets have suspended doing so due to the Corona outbreak.

For JW memorial, in consideration to the increasing number of partakers, multiple glasses of wine should be ready so that no more than 1 person will drink from each glass. Likewise, any piece of bread touched, should be discarded so no one will touch or eat from the same piece.

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Corona beer sales vs coronavirus ?

by smiddy3 in

i`m just curious as to whether the corona beer sales have plummeted since this coronavirus has spread in different parts of the world .. it wouldn`t surprise me if sales had a nose dive since this outbreak and just wondered if anybody has any information concerning this ?.

word association plays a big part in many peoples lives..

Incognito

I am aware of a local company that recently decided to supply a Chinese food lunch for employees. Although the food was to be prepared by a local Chinese food restaurant using locally produced ingredients, some of the employees refused because of fear of coronavirus because it originated in China.

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Expect 90% of pimi's to go down with the ship here's why

by nowwhat? in

i have been feeding my very pimi brother tidbits and clippings of all the csa issues coming to light the last five years and all the org's business dealings of hundreds of closed halls congs dissolving etc.

and reminding him of all the failed prophecies etc etc.

although he would listen and acknowledge.

Incognito

Nowwhat, since your brother appears to have listened, you don't know what seeds of doubt you have sown.

Of course he will not immediately acknowledge doubt as JWs are so frequently pre-warned Satan will use whatever means available to cause them to leave Jehovah. When you were a committed JW, how would you have reacted if he fed you that same information you shared with him?

JWs will usually be more prone to acknowledge their own doubts and concerns when an issue personally effects them or an immediate family member. If for instance he is treated unfairly, or his congregation is dissolved and he is forced to travel an inconvenient distance, he maybe more vulnerable to acknowledge doubts and concerns, but expect he will also attempt to suppress his doubts by rationalization. Rationalization will usually become tiresome if the same issues are ongoing.

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pictures for or of pimos

by waton in

a picture so embarrassing, even wtbts inc does not want to describe it?

this week's study, no 52, march 1 2020 wt dec 1919. picture description (on page 27) for pages 23 and 26 but not for the one on page 24, too embarrassing?

picture it, page 24. the wt lady, with a head volume ~8 times that of the gentlemen sitting behind her, eager to have her voice boom in the kingdom hall, raising arms with 3 other "sisters", whereas all 4 males are abstaining.

Incognito

Perhaps the photo was obtained from an early episode of 'Young Sheldon'.

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Please help

by Dano3456 in

jw
friends

my wife and i are not religious nor do we want to be.

we are very set in our spiritual beliefs.

we have worked with a jw who's family have been like a part of our family for 6 years.

Incognito

She only goes with them a few times a year. But I am prepared to stop it if I hear anything alarming. - Dano

Dano, you appear to consider child abuse is the only issue we are warning you about. Although child sexual abuse is a major concern which you need to be aware of, many of the warnings given regard the teachings and indoctrination methods used by JWs. Do not consider attending JW meetings to be harmless or similar to casually attending a 1-hour Sunday service in a mainstream church.

JWs will not discuss the negative aspects or problems in the religion and will lie or deny being aware to protect the interests and reputation of the religion and the parent Watchtower organization.

Many JWs are not even aware of many issues as they are warned to not watch news stories or read negative reports as those are claimed to be lies and half-truths created by 'apostates' (ex-JWs) who are bitter and 'mentally diseased'.

Most of us who are regular participants on this forum are former JWs who have come to realize and accept the religion is actually a dangerous cult. Many have no hesitation discussing the negative and positive aspects of the religion, and attempt to inform anyone that is interested or exposed to the religion as to the teachings and indoctrination methods utilized. The person can then consider both sides to make an informed decision if they wish to continue involvement with the religion.

You said you and your wife do not wish to be religious and do not want even 1 of your children to become a JW. As such, why are you allowing anyone to take your vulnerable children to any religious service, JW or other? What do you consider is the purpose, benefit or expected outcome in allowing your children to attend JW meetings, even if 'only' a few times each year?

While your co-worker and her family may be very kind, generous and loving, their religious beliefs are their own. Remaining friends should not be based on a condition that your children must attend their religious services or be taught their beliefs.

As JWs are required to preach and teach in between meetings, it is likely that your children have been provided with their own JW books or watch JW videos which are reviewed and discussed when they visit.

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Please help

by Dano3456 in

jw
friends

my wife and i are not religious nor do we want to be.

we are very set in our spiritual beliefs.

we have worked with a jw who's family have been like a part of our family for 6 years.

Incognito

With regard to child sexual abuse, the JW religion does have a major problem.

Obviously, not all JWs are abusers, but because JWs are taught they can trust other JWs with their life and that the worst JW is better than the best 'worldly' person, JWs such as your neighbors, will often trust other JWs they only just met. Because of these trusting attitudes, children too frequently become victims of abuse because they attended the kingdom hall washroom unsupervised or they were permitted to accompany another adult JW alone in service (door knocking), or permitted to sleep over with friends at another JW's home. Often, abuse is not known until years or decades after it took place.

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Please help

by Dano3456 in

jw
friends

my wife and i are not religious nor do we want to be.

we are very set in our spiritual beliefs.

we have worked with a jw who's family have been like a part of our family for 6 years.

Incognito

Welcome Dano!

Your children will learn that God (Jehovah) will soon destroy everyone on earth that is not a JW. This often leads to highly influential children becoming stressed and anxious that they and their parents, grandparents, aunts, cousins etc will be killed at armageddon.

Because JWs believe they are doing a life saving work, they will use whatever methods they can to convert as many people possible into becoming JWs, including using children's fears to pressure their parents.

While I appreciate you think highly of these people, and while they maybe the best people you will ever know and trust, remember, they are JWs who believe they have the ultimate obligation to convert the masses to save their lives.

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My husband and I told our families we want to disassociate

by erinee in

well, these stories are always fun, right?

let me share mine.. my husband and have been pimo for 2 years.

inactive for one year.

Incognito

Welcome to the forum.

ALL our family said they would shun us for the rest of their life, no matter what. Even if we have kids in the future ...
... they want us to just be inactive so they can keep talking to us.

They wish to blame you for their actions instead of accepting responsibility for their own choices.

No one is holding a gun to their heads to force them to shun you, but they gladly comply with the dictates of a cult run by men. For a group that claims to be bible based, the most loving and the chosen people of the 'god of love', it does not take much for them to ignore Jesus examples. They quickly discard family relationships if they are told by men that they 'may be' (not assured) rewarded for doing so.

We haven't done our research.

They have not done their research, but they are only reaffirming their belief that the cult they are members of, could never do such things. As they are too afraid to research for themselves, they accuse any one that states info that is negative or contrary cult teachings, to have fallen for false stories and half truths that have no basis in fact.

I recall a scripture that states to keep making sure of all things and hold onto that which is fine (proven), but JWs commonly ignore that scripture.

While your families accuse you of breaking your vows, were any of them members of other religions before becoming JWs? If so, did they not break their vows to God?

While there is no one course of action that is suitable for everyone, most PIMO and inactive (ex-)JWs remain such to maintain relationships with their families who may not know their true status. As your opinions are now known to your families, there should be no fear that your families will learn of your life choices so that may lessen your fear (looking over your shoulder) in just remaining inactive.