Incognito

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  Just got an apology from an exJW

  by Village Idiot in

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  so i'm back from the store walking to my apartment, over a hundred units in the complex - all jws and ex-jws - and i see someone talking to an ex-jw neighbor of mine.

  she turns around and says "now there's some else i have to apologize to".. she identified herself as an old neighbor who used to play as a jw child right by my place.

  she had told me how she was raised to consider me and all the ex-jws in the apartment complex as evil and thought she had to apologize for that.. made my day.

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  I don't know if any of these apologies made anyone feel better overall, come to think of it. :rebel8
  

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  rebel8, did you feel better as a result? You are more than an 'anyone', you are a someone!
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  $10 per pub. Money begging session last night

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last night, during our "christian life and ministry" meeting, we had a session on local needs.

  elder opened the talk with a disclaimer saying that this was a reminder (cited psalms about how david loved jehovahs reminders).

  he reminded us of how bless we are of having our own local assembly hall.

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  Most if not all of the existing AHs were paid for through separate specific donations made by JWs in each circuit, donated before and during the AH construction. If WT had provided any funding, it would have been as a mortgage to make-up for any shortfall in the initial fund raising.
  

  In the past, each circuit maintained its own financial accounts. Often, even after sending a substantial (voluntary) donation to WT, there was surplus which carried over to the next CA and was added to whatever was donated at that assembly. If an assembly received less donations, perhaps due to local economic issues, the carried-over surplus usually made-up for any shortfall.
  

  It was a relatively good system until WT became greedy and demanded all money each circuit held in surplus. Now, a large donation to WT is built into the rate per publisher. If there does happen to be additional funds realized beyond the publisher's daily rate, that too is sent to WT as an additional donation. Calling the expense 'maintenance' or an 'assembly hall expense', is in reality, misrepresentation.
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  Who did you believe the scriptures were describing when you were a JW?

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it never hit me until i was out.

  matt:23;4 "they tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them.

  on other people shoulders".

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  I recall so often, hearing talks citing scriptures that said NOT to behave in a certain way, only to have that same speaker go on to praise WT & JWs for behaving in the exact manner the scripture said not to.

  Just as with the May 2015 JWTV netcast, GB Lett claimed WT does not beg or solicit donations, but then carried on for the next hour doing exactly that.

  Either JWs are brainwashed zombies or they have tuned themselves out to what is being said and just don't care.
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  Are the 2015 Belgium Concert for Delegates and Kingdom Hall Cowboy Footloose Videos on Youtube for real?

  by Maryo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo0fxyk4iba.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qxdgtaskfm.

  i find these shocking.

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  We couldn't play anything but Kingdom songs while cleaning the KH.

  As related in another thread, during the '70s as a pre-teen/teen, I recall Bros & Sis from Mexico while attending the Int Conv in Toronto, performed native dancing in their native dress, on the stage after the sessions were over. It was done tastefully and modestly with no cat calls and the music was music only, no singing. While most everyone stayed and enjoyed the change of pace, it was soon outlawed as that type of behaviour was not appropriate in Jehovah's house of worship.

  With the party atmosphere now evident in these videos, What's next? Beer 'N shooters in the KH?
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  What are the new songs that people are talking about?

  by dogon in

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  2. beliefs

  i have heard that there are some or at least one new song that is way out there.

  what number is it or a link to it on youtube.

  thanks.

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  While arranged in a similar style as a Broadway show tune, at least the music to 142 is a little more upbeat, unlike some of the dirges they had included in the past.
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  It amazes me...

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ..to think about how the congregations actually function....even down to the individual level.. the biggest bully on the boe (or his wife), controls the show.. ones within the congregation are treated like they're dirt and still they return.

  stockholm syndrome?.

  i've heard ones say that 'jehovah(tm) will sort it all out.

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  It is amazing, though, that you've got 8 million people .... - OEJ
  

  So WT claims.

  With declining attendance observed in many developed nations as especially evident in memorial attendance, unless the new converts in third world nations greatly exceed the ones leaving, I suspect the 8+ million members reported, is an exaggerated number.
  
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  Kim and mikeys chanel on YouTube they uploaded a video of more singing and dancing

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on their chanel they are showing a video of a special assembly day in belgium i believe.

  the jws are dancing dressed in black and red, satanic colores.

  singing and playing worldly songs and kingdom melodies.

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  Added to correct my earlier post. I was reminded that it was Bros & Sis from Mexico that were singing and dancing, not Bros & Sis from Africa.
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  Kim and mikeys chanel on YouTube they uploaded a video of more singing and dancing

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on their chanel they are showing a video of a special assembly day in belgium i believe.

  the jws are dancing dressed in black and red, satanic colores.

  singing and playing worldly songs and kingdom melodies.

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  I remember as an adolescent/teen in the mid 1970's, there had been some 'delegates' from Africa that had visited the Toronto DC at Woodbine Racetrack. They wanted to wear their native dress and dance for the audience after the program ended. The convention program then ended at 9pm so it was around 11pm when the dancing was finally finshed and the crowd went home.

  I seem to recall this occured in two consecutive years and it may have involved Kingdom Melodies as the dance music as opposed to 'wordly' music.
  

  Prior to the third year, it was announced at each congregation that there was to be no more entertainment as that was not appropriate at the DC as that was JAH'S place of worship and was to be used for spiritual matters only.

  Seeing what goes on now, it appears they are doing exactly the things they critisized other religions for doing. I guess desperate times call for desperate measures.
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  Should doctors tell JW patients that there is disagreement about Watchtower's blood policy.

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  this has been a controversial issue among doctors and medical ethicists.

  i think it basically comes down to the fact that physicians have a responsibility to establish the presence of informed consent.

  is it really possible for a person to give informed consent if they are not accurately informed?.

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  It is the doctors responsibility to provide the patient (or their alternate decision maker) the treatment options. That may involve correcting any misunderstanding the patient may have been lead to understand.

  Regardless of something dictated by WT or because of something she/he read in a fortune cookie, a patient having attained the age of majority, capable of understanding and who has been provided informed consent, has the right to accept or deny treatment.

  Whether you agree with refusing a blood transfusion or not, think about yourself being forced to decide on a treatment option which for whatever reason, you are devoutly against. Should you be forced to receive that treatment?
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  Writing my Disassociation letter

  by Bebopin in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  today i am working on writing my disassociation letter.

  i successfully faded a year ago.

  but i feel like i can't keep looking over my shoulder anymore i just need to be completely rid of this cult.. any suggestions on letter and it's content?.

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  But I feel like I can't keep looking over my shoulder anymore I just need to be completely rid of this cult.

  Since you indicate that you successfully faded, has there been anything that has actually warranted looking over your shoulder?

  As you said 'But I feel...', you are referring to personal feelings within you. If you perceive yourself as having already left, why do you think sending a resignation letter will change how you feel?

  If you think that sending a letter will change your thinking on how you will feel, why can't you modify your thinking so as to be at peace, with or without sending a letter?