Posts by Incognito

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A new step in my exit from the WT

by Skepsis in

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if you remember, i've been posting here my subsequent steps from a regular pioneer and ms at the beginning of this year to a rank-and-file publisher after stepping down as ms two months ago.. during these months, i've been through a difficult way.

but after every step, i could feel freer and better.

i've met a person outside the wt that has changed my life forever and i have experienced a freedom of thought and an inner peace like never before.. however, i knew that staying in my hometown would make my fading very difficult.

Incognito

I agree with Stan.

I think for you to do as you did, it would have been better to attend a congregation some distance away from where you are actually living. That way, the new elders would not know your address and if asked, you could give the excuse that your residence is only temporary until you can locate a permanent home or apartment. As you will not be returning after a few visits, you wouldn't need to move again and, you remain unknown at your real new location.

Perhaps you could have stated that your new work schedule appears to initially conflict with meeting times so you may miss some meetings until the schedule is resolved. Since you're new, once they don't see you for awhile, they will tend to forget about you.

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A new step in my exit from the WT

by Skepsis in

jw
friends

if you remember, i've been posting here my subsequent steps from a regular pioneer and ms at the beginning of this year to a rank-and-file publisher after stepping down as ms two months ago.. during these months, i've been through a difficult way.

but after every step, i could feel freer and better.

i've met a person outside the wt that has changed my life forever and i have experienced a freedom of thought and an inner peace like never before.. however, i knew that staying in my hometown would make my fading very difficult.

Incognito

I went to one meeting in a congregation in my new city for asking to the secretary's address.

Since your intention is to fade, why would you attend and make yourself known as a JW in your new location? If your old congregation elders didn't know where you had moved to, it seems to me you wasted a near perfect fade opportunity to just disappear.

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interesting EX-CO AMA ( Ask Me Anything) over on exjwreddit

by Diogenesister in

ex-circuit overseer here, ama.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6usaky/excircuit_overseer_here_ama/.

Incognito

Of course they have a right to hate an attorney.

LOL

darkspilver,

Thanks for re-posting these on this forum.

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Updates on the workload of Bethelites

by usualusername1 in

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have the bethelites started cooking and doing their own washing yet?

how are they coping?.

paul.

Incognito

Listener:. In the video above, he seems to describe an honour system whereby they indicate their bethel ID number for the items to be charged to.

I think I would be tempted to indicate a new bethel ID. Starts with F and ends with YOU. 😁

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Updates on the workload of Bethelites

by usualusername1 in

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friends

have the bethelites started cooking and doing their own washing yet?

how are they coping?.

paul.

Incognito

I think this is the second video where he posted as Marcus Vaughn. Part 1 first describes the circumstances to his leaving and in part 2, he describes obtaining food from the commesary and charging it to his bethel ID as he wasn't invited to stay for dinner before being unexpectantly sent on his way.that day.

https://youtu.be/X9mnOjkBJVA

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JW org doesn't need to make propaganda videos, their own members make them.

by adjusted knowledge in

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i had some witness that posted these.

https://www.facebook.com/jwbrothers.org/videos/874849689358755/.

https://www.facebook.com/jwbrothers.org/videos/871968969646827/.

Incognito

Many JWs have a very pessimistic outlook on life. They seem to only focus on negative events and hardly mention or have enjoyment when things are good. Both my long term JW family and LT JW in-laws display the same views.

When we had announced we are having a baby, my family's reaction was "Oh NO!" This is the typical reaction with any good news.

All the in-laws talk about is how 'bad' everything is. They are terrified of going anywhere much beyond d2d and attempt to transfer that outlook on us. We suggest they stop watching the news since it affects them so negatively.

Being a JW is not about enjoying life now. Life can only truly be enjoyed in the 'New System', after the cleanup work is completed. The time now is more something that must be endured, so they can do what is needed to prove their faith and earn god's favor to make it through into the 'New System'.

When things are going well, it seems they experience too much cognitive dissonance, thereby opening doubt that Armageddon will ever come. They are told the world is a rotten place and will not improve until god takes control. When seeing disasters and negative events, that seems to boost their hope that will be the start to God's rule.

While JWs claim they don't believe in hell after death, their approach to life is somewhat as if hell is what is endured now, with every disaster and negative event only serving to enforce that approach to life.

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Assistance

by bola in

as experienced people, i need your assistance..

Incognito

my parents are forcing me to be reinstated as a member again.

Are they holding a gun to your head?

Right now, you are no longer a member and not under authority of the Watchtower Society. To become reinstated, would be equivalent to a 'worldly' person becoming baptized as a JW.

JWs claim that baptism is an external display of a person's personal dedication to Jehovah and promise to fulfill his requirements as defined by the bible (as interrupted by his spirit directed earthly organization).

In reasoning with your parents, by being 'forced' to be a member only to satisfy them or another 'man' (wrong motives), that would not be to fulfill a dedication to god and would therefore be useless and unacceptable in god's eyes.

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Will hurricane Harvey infuse the WTBT$ with more money? Or cost them more money?

by exjwlemming in

in the past, i have known many brothers that had trekked down to the southern us to perform relief work on behalf of the wtbt$.

they return as heros.

they shared the repairing and rebuilding of kh and the property of fellow believers.

Incognito

Would they break even by getting some insurance payouts to supplement the cost of materials for all and the abundance of free labor? - exjwlemming

Does WT actually purchase building materials for relief projects, or are materials donated by JWs and suppliers from other areas? Even if materials had to be trucked-in, I suspect the majority of shipping expenses including fuel, is paid by 'brothers' who own or may have access to trucking equipment.

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Oh this stoopid shunning thing!!

by Unstuck in

warning - vent ahead....... so, my father (still very much in jw but who has at least had the decency to still keep in contact with me and hubby and to show interest in why we aren't attending and respect where we are at) is in intensive care at a local hospital and is intubated and sedated with some serious health issues.

i'm next of kin so i get all the phone calls from the hospital.. so, the rest of the "family" has cut me off because we are inactive and because the ever-active jw gossip grapevine has rumoured with a sibilant slithy hissy voice: "apossstassssy" is the cause of our inactivity.. whatever.. but now i've had to contact said "family" with the news about my father and what is going on....... so, dad's sisters answer my calls and manage to act and conduct themselves with a degree of decorum.. my sister on the other hand - well, she doesn't deign to answer my calls and texts for most of the day.

i push the issue tonight and insist on speaking to her when my brother-in-law answers the call.

Incognito

Unstuck,

I'm relieved that you're more at ease in your position and the responsibility your dad appointed you to and which you agree'd to accept.

While you may consider you are taking on an unfair portion of responsibility, I suggest not being too quick to suggest your sister be involved.

Often, parents think that appointing their children as co-workers (example: Co-Power of Attorney, Co-Estate Executors etc) is a method to treat their children equally. In actuality, as none can act without consent of the other(s), there are often delays or little is accomplished or, one person does the bulk of the work even though they are all appointed equally. Typically fighting results, sometimes resulting in hard feelings for the remainder of their lives.

It's always best to have one clearly defined person responsible who can act quickly if necessary. As he has already appointed you, it appears your father has already recognized you to be reliable and level headed, and trusts you will act in his best interests.

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Just Offended A JW Cart Witness Without Even Trying

by pale.emperor in

on my way into town from my office.

two carts set up a few feet from each other.

one manned by a man and woman (i assume they're a couple) in their late 30s.. the guys walks off to the other cart as im walking by, i wasn't going to approach but the woman holding the awake!

Incognito

As i walked away i heard him say to the woman "that's an example of what i mean, i was talking and you..."

How very kind and loving of him, to chastise her, especially as it seems he interrupted her right before.

Even if compelled to comment on being interrupted, not very discreet as this was within hearing range of the person they were trying to convert, and probably other bystanders.