I suspect when there was a search for land, the 75-acre property was then available at reasonable cost and in the general area central to the congregations that AH would be serving. There is probably good highway access. That property may also have offered the prospect for rezoning the property use, likely from agricultural use to a religious place of worship.
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Proposed Georgia(USA) Assembly Hall Collected Funds, 3.5 Million Dollars, donated to the World Wide Work
by James Jack infrom 2012 thru 2016, congregations in georgia and alabama collected funds to build a new assembly hall in south atlanta.
to date, 3.5 million dollars was collected and 75 acres was purchased.
the branch decided that this assembly hall was not needed.
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Refusing to Report time in field ministry
by Whynot inwhat do you think would happen if i verbally refuse to report my time?
it's been several months since i turned in my time and i think the elder got tired of asking me lol.
frankly, i think it's stupid that jws are required to do this.
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If you haven't reported in several months, don't bother as they will soon stop asking.
I suspect once a person is deemed inactive, their publisher card will soon be hidden from the CO as that person becomes an embarrassment to the elders since they are proven ineffective in restoring the person's 'enthusiasim'. Your husband remaining an active member of that Cong, makes the situation somewhat more complicated since he remains there and can answer questions about you. The elders can't simply claim you moved away and they don't know where to.
As WT seem to use publisher numbers when stating the number of active JWs, it would be interesting to observe if the number of JWs worldwide would decrease if all PIMO persons who now report fake hours, stop doing so.
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They've given themselves a out for refusing to give you your data if you ask for it
by purrpurr infrom the jw.org global data page.
"upon receipt of your written request, after you provide sufficient evidence of your identity and enough information to permit us to identify your personal data, the applicable data controller will fairly consider granting the request by balancing the interests of the individual in gaining access to data or correcting or deleting data against the legitimate interests of the organization, including whether granting the request would endanger the organization’s right to religious freedom and practice.
we will also notify any third-party recipients of the necessary changes.. please note that your data may not be erased if processing is required by law or if the data may be kept on other legal bases.
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Even if WT assures a person all their personal information has been deleted, how would the person verify that actually occurred and there isn't info remaining on file including within backup files stored off-site?
While government's may enact laws regarding personal freedom including the retention of information on individuals, there is no 'privacy police' to verify compliance, making it an honor based system. WT has proven itself to have no honor.
As there is no bible precedent for keeping records on fellow Christian's, WT cannot really justify doing so as a religious requirement or practice.
Do other Christian religions (ie: Catholic, Anglican, C of E, etc) maintain large database of member information or are JWs 'unique' in this too?
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Sensitive data on Watchtower forms
by Fay Dehr inhere's a link to a common form that publishers are required to fill in if they want to participate in city cart witnessing:.
https://1drv.ms/b/s!amcrvjcxi6m6agpvwzog5pxfxja.
note on the reverse of the form comments that elders write, and a box to rate your "spirituality"!
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I never posted this 2nd post - must be a glitch in this forum!
Seems odd then that this post has a different title than the one referenced by _Morpheus
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Loosing your Privleges and Scumbag elders
by Addison0998 inso 9 months before i started pioneering, i had a hot and heavy moment with this player witness who was just trying to string me along and talked to a lot of different girls.
we made out and he grabbed my goodies a few times you know the regular stuff all teens do at least once.
anyways i never saw him again because when i refused to send him nudes he dropped me.
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Congratulations! You have now been awakened to the ways of the Watchtower. As has been mentioned, the elders did you a favour.
JW Privilege = spending your time working for free for no personal reward
Why is 'Pioneering' considered a privilege which can be denied to the person willing to do it? As all JWs are expected to preach to others, why then is a title and elders approval required so as to fulfil a personal commitment to spend a specific number of hours preaching each month?
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Affected by assembly
by Saltheart Foamfollower inhi - first some context - i have been pimo for about 20 years now and so have been to a lot of assemblies in that time.
last weekend i went to a circuit assembly and for the first time afterwards i was able to talk directly to someone who knows i'm out.
i realised then that although i didn't agree with any teachings (i sat picking holes in the arguements as usual) the experience of being there had affected me - the way of life started feeling normal as did the overall way of viewing the world.
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I have come to the realisation that being PIMO and having an open mind is the best way. - Formerbrother
You likely didn't mean it in the manner you did. 'Best way' would be to be POMO and to go off and live a good life.
In continuing to attend and subject oneself to their influence, sets up an internal conflict.
A person portrays an outward appearance, behaviour and speech so as to be accepted, meanwhile, their brain is screaming - 'this is BS', and constantly reminds them how unhappy they are to pretend.
In the long term, with constantly placing their true feelings on the backburner, the 'screaming' in their brain will eventually become a whisper. Although the person may not agree fully with the religion, they will no longer be full PIMO but will have conditioned themselves to be PIMI to a greater degree.
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On and off again JW girlfriend
by Crzysin inhello everyone, i have an on and off again ex who is a jw.
each time her family gets involved and she's gone again.
i'm debating biting the bullet and doing the work to become baptized, so we can follow through with our engagement.
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Welcome!
You have not stated what you or your GF think about the JW religion. Do you still hold that it is 'The Truth'? Does she?
Your GF is old enough to make her own decisions but is choosing to disregard how she wishes to live her life and is disrespecting you as her fiance. You are taken for granted as you continue to be there for her, even after she throws you away and treats you like dirt. She places her family on a higher level than you or even herself, allowing them to dictate her life. If your GF remains content to allow her family to continue to control her, that will continue even if you were to marry.
If you cave-in to comply with her family's demands, you are then allowing them to control you too. Where do you think their control will stop? There will always be something more you and she need to do to keep their favour. Think of the example this sets for both your child and hers.
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How to "turn the tables" on still-in witness who pry about our status.
by stuckinarut2 inso many of us have had (perhaps well-meaning) jws ask us questions about our inactivity, or lack of attendance at meetings.
they may pry about why..... how is this for a simple, yet straight to the point response?
to a sincere person, it may play on their mind and make them ask more questions.
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"Thanks, but my God-given Bible trained conscience doesn't allow me to associate, now that I know a multitude of disturbing facts" - stuck
I said something similar to two of my JW relatives. Their response, "We haven't heard anything."
That was the end of any further discussion except them demanding that we must put those things out of mind and attend meetings anyway, even as they had not attended in many years but only pretend they do.
As millie210 said: "It will NEVER matter what you say...reason and logic will not penetrate."
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It’s Stupid That JWs Wont Recognize Birthdays Yet If A Baby Is Born They Will Give Gifts!
by minimus ina witness can’t celebrate and give gifts on a birthday except on the day they are born.
giving a baby shower is ok as well as gift giving—- but only once!
soooo dumb!.
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Similar to a wedding day, the "birthday" is the actual day a child is born. That same calendar day each subsequent year marks the anniversary of the child's birth, but most people commonly accept continuing to call it a 'birthday' whereas subsequent recognition of a wedding day is commonly called an 'anniversary'. Why is that?
If JWs wish to recognize and celebrate their or their children's 'birthday', perhaps they should just call it the anniversary of their birth since in JW land, recognition and celebration of an anniversary remains a matter of conscience.
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Memorial.. To go or not to go
by Emily1987 inso, as some of you will know myself and my husband are in the process of fading.
haven't been to a meeting since beginning of 2017. .
we weren't planning on going to the memorial, but last week my mother broke down and said that we have to go to the memorial even if it's the only meeting i go to this year.
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I understand WT has recently been teaching active JWs that everyone who attends the memorial, are showing they recognize JWs to be the only true religion. By attending, you are supporting their belief that you continue to consider that religion as 'The Truth', even as you do not participate in any other JW activities throughout the year.
JWs commonly attempt to control any relatives who will submit to their methods, crying being one such method. If you give-in, expect similar behaviour whenever there are other JW events labelled as 'Special'.
While my SO and I had attended the memorial for a few years after fading from being active JWs, we finally asked ourselves why we were doing that and creating unneeded anxiety and stress for ourselves by again potentially placing ourselves under influence and accountability to the local elders.
Although many people consider a KH as a church and therefore open to the public, it is in actuality, private property and only accessible by those the elders allow to attend and who will adhere to dress code, behaviour and other 'rules' the WT and local elders designate and decide to enforce. The elders could ask to meet with you as you are attending their facility by your own choice.
Similar to your mother, our JW relatives make an issue of ensuring we know the memorial date and 'demand' that we attend. Early on, they would argue, induce guilt and put on an emotional display both in their pleas to attend and afterwards, when we admitted to not going. Although they now continue to 'request' we attend, it is no longer so emotional. They also do not always inquire afterwards but if they do, usually nothing further is said when we say we didn't attend.
I expect your mother will also soon learn to accept your choices, once you stop giving in to her emotional attempts to control you.