Thanks everyone and ramtrucker.
School is one great thing. The Tri-Cities have many scientists and engineers living there, so the school's averages are some of the best in the country.
well, we thought we'd be here for at least 2 years.
last week my wife was told that her office will close jan. 31st!
this is actually kinda' normal for bechtel.
Thanks everyone and ramtrucker.
School is one great thing. The Tri-Cities have many scientists and engineers living there, so the school's averages are some of the best in the country.
well, we thought we'd be here for at least 2 years.
last week my wife was told that her office will close jan. 31st!
this is actually kinda' normal for bechtel.
Washington sounds toxic, but I know there is a lot fishing, boating, etc. Supposed to have a small town atmosphere as well.
It's simi-dessert with easy winters.
Bryan
well, we thought we'd be here for at least 2 years.
last week my wife was told that her office will close jan. 31st!
this is actually kinda' normal for bechtel.
Well, we thought we'd be here for at least 2 years. Last week my wife was told that her office will close Jan. 31st! This is actually kinda' normal for Bechtel. There's no problem with her job. Plenty other projects want her.
Dallas is an option. Of course, we have some great friends there, which is a great draw.
Houston, also, would like to have her. We call Houston home so we have a lot of regular (non-exjw) friends there.
Richland/Kenewick, Washington wants her really bad.
The thing about Washington is that the job will last until 2020. Bechtel is Cacooning all the old WWII Platonium reactors and claening all the radioactive bs that is there. It would be nice not to have to move, especially with Sébastien, for a few years.
Houston probably would be at least 5 years and Dallas is diffinately a temp job of 1-2 years.
Do we have any ex's in the Tri Cities of Washington? I've done a lot of research and am curious about personal opinions.
Thanks Ya'll
Bryan
after a lenthy illness, 10 years in total, my mother, margaret stecko, passed away peacefully today surrounded by family.
she was 84, and leaves behind 3 children, 5 grandchildren, and 8 great grandchildren.
she was a jw but never shunned me.
Sorry to hear it Walter. Glad your mother is not suffering any longer. I personally believe there is something very beautiful on the other side.
Best,
Bryan
hi everybody and happy new year.
2007 is the year i turn 40, in fact in exactly one month's time to be precise.. i've noted that a lot of people on jwd are a similar age to me.
i think it's because it takes us this long to pluck up the courage to finally leave the borg.. i need to know how turning 40 makes you feel.
60 is the new 40. I'm 42 and enjoy chasing my 20 month old son around on the floor. I also a few aches and pains that have crept up. But I don't feel old at all. At the very most, I'm only half way through my life and I spent my first 30 yearsnlearning about life... now I'm living it.
Bryan
we are all aware that major occurances are happening in this earth and the heavens that are causing scientist, biologist, epidemologist are all in a quandry as to why a large chunck of ice seperated from the canadian artic ice shelf the size of which is the equal of eleven thousand football fields.
beyond belief.. what a great concern for mankind and the earth.
the global warming, the ozone layer enlarging asteroids, and whatever else they can think of is definetly destroying our planet or at least changing the global warming.
Simon:
"The experts say now that COWS contibute 18% to global warming... more than our own contibution of polution." That only tells part of the story though. The reason that there are so many cows is that we consume so many bloody burgers. Really, it is still caused by us.
Okay Simon. That is true, but what about al the buffalo which used to roam North America? There were hundreds of thousands. Also, used to be, every family had at least one cow if not more. Now we buy our beef and dairy products. So can you really say that there are MORE COWS (poluting animals) today because we eat them, compared to times past? Bryan
..............i am specifically refering to those raised in the truth by both parents and then one parent leaves.
firstly, any experiences of those who went through this would be appreciated.. mainly, i am just wondering what is the best way to influence your children against the jw mindset.
it is a concern to me that my children grow up believing some of the doctrines of the wts.
I never engaged her in what she believed; what she was taught in the borg.
As she got a little older I would have encouraged her to prove what she was being taught.
I would have shown her the good side of a regular life not built by fear.
Traveling did open her eyes a bit. NYC, Canada, France.
The biggest problem was her entire family as support group. Many aunts, uncles, cousins. And probably none of them had a high school education, but they knew the big A was right around the corner.
Bryan
..............i am specifically refering to those raised in the truth by both parents and then one parent leaves.
firstly, any experiences of those who went through this would be appreciated.. mainly, i am just wondering what is the best way to influence your children against the jw mindset.
it is a concern to me that my children grow up believing some of the doctrines of the wts.
My own experience...
My daughter was three when I first left the borg. I took the stand that as she grew older her eyes would open wider concerning the borg and her mother's lies. I failed. She hasn't spoken to me since she turned 19; 3 years. I seem to be an evil apostate.
Bryan
edited to add: If I could do it again... I would be pro-active.
we are all aware that major occurances are happening in this earth and the heavens that are causing scientist, biologist, epidemologist are all in a quandry as to why a large chunck of ice seperated from the canadian artic ice shelf the size of which is the equal of eleven thousand football fields.
beyond belief.. what a great concern for mankind and the earth.
the global warming, the ozone layer enlarging asteroids, and whatever else they can think of is definetly destroying our planet or at least changing the global warming.
I'm a firm believer that our world lives a life of it's own. The experts say now that COWS contibute 18% to global warming... more than our own contibution of polution.
There have been many ice ages and warming periods... there will be thousands more... with or without the human race.
Bryan
contagion effect?
well-publicized violent events sometimes trigger other people on the edge to act out in a similar fashion.
they don't necessarily know that they're acting for this reason, but having seen the very act they may have been pondering put into effect may be just enough fuel for the fire.
Contagion Effect?
Well-publicized violent events sometimes trigger other people on the edge to act out in a similar fashion. They don't necessarily know that they're acting for this reason, but having seen the very act they may have been pondering put into effect may be just enough fuel for the fire. "It becomes part of the repertoire of coping methods that people might consider," Ewing said in an interview. There was much discussion about this effect in Oregon in 2002 after three families were found dead.
Christian Longo married Mary Jane Baker in 1993 in Ann Arbor, Michigan. They were both Jehovah's Witnesses and they remained in Michigan to work hard so they could afford to raise a family. By 2000, they had three children, a boy and two girls. Then Longo was caught and convicted of forging checks, and their fortunes went into a serious decline. They left the state in mid-2001 and went to Newport, Oregon, where Longo got a low-paying job at a Starbucks. He also got into trouble again. Then the family just disappeared.
On December 19, 2001, the body of the boy, Zachary, was pulled out of the water of Alsea Bay. They soon found Sadie Ann, the second oldest. A week later, MaryJane and the baby were found by divers. Both had been strangled and tossed into the water. Family possessions were located in a nearby trash can.
Longo was located in Cancun, Mexico, but he had already fled. They found him in a grass hut in Tulum, trysting with a German woman.
Less than three months later, in March 2002, the community of McMinnville, just south of Portland, was shaken when a family of six was found shot dead in their home. Landscaping contractor Robert Bryant apparently shot his wife, Janet, and their four children before turning the shotgun on himself. The children were all found in their beds. From all reports, they had last been seen at school on February 22, and no one had thought much about them disappearing for more than ten days. Like the Longos, this family had belonged to the Jehovah's Witnesses faith, but reportedly had been shunned by their former community for conduct not in harmony with the religion's principles. (Flaccus reports it was because Bryant believed he had been anointed for a special purpose.)
Bryant was described as deeply religious, mild-mannered, and devoted to his family, so the massacre came as a surprise to many who knew them. He'd had plans to build a nice home and nothing appeared to be so terrible in his life as to inspire such an act. There were rumors that he feared that relatives who belonged to the church would sue for custody of his children, so perhaps he was protecting them from that. Bryant had also filed for bankruptcy the year before, but had rebuilt his business and was getting back on his feet. The day he shot everyone and used the same shotgun on himself was his and Janet's 17th wedding anniversary.
The sudden deaths remain a mystery.
Nine months later, Edward Morris, 37, killed his pregnant wife and three young children. A hunter found their bodies in Oregon's Tillamook State Forest. Morris' wife and two sons had been shot, his 8-year-old daughter stabbed 18 times. He had fled, but after an international manhunt, was caught not far away in Baker City, Oregon. He, too, had been on the brink of financial ruin. He, too, was deeply religious, but as an evangelical Christian. He so hated violence that he had home-schooled his children to keep them away from disruptions at school. He doted on them as the centerpiece of his life. He had filed for bankruptcy in 1993 for his roofing business, but had not quite recovered from it. He had worked at a series of jobs and was plagued with financial problems. During pre-trial evaluations, he said that he'd been plagued by the voices of demons and had struggled against them, but they had told him to kill.
Christian Longo went on trial on seven counts of murder (in Oregon, the killing of a child under a certain age counts as two). Held against him was the 60-page down-loaded file found on his abandoned computer that detailed how to commit a murder. After killing his family, he had stuffed his wife and infant daughter into separate suitcases, reports Andrew Kramer for the Decatur Daily News, and dumped them into the bay. He had then tossed his other two children into a lagoon. He told FBI agents who caught him that he had "sent them to a better place." He said that he had been "disfellowshipped" by his church and he had no money, so things had been looking bleak. He had not wanted his family to suffer.
Longo, who was described by a psychiatrist as narcissistic, was convicted of the charges and sentenced to death.
These three are good examples of men who seek structure in their lives and failing to find it, fall apart and target those close to them whom they once loved but who have become burdens. While none of these three was considered psychotic, there are rare individuals who do buckle under increasing stress and literally lose their minds.