I hate to inform you all, but as soylibre pointed out, the proper gramatical term would be mice. It is not mices or mouses, because mice, all by it's little self, is already a plural term.
AngelofMuZiC
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I Have a Dream - for ex-JWs
by Amazing inthe following is taken directly from the closing of the speech given by dr. maring luther king, jr. 38 eight years ago on august 28, 1963, "i have a dream".
in a future post, i will injected some respectfully intended comments after his thoughts because of the irony of his references and how they relate to ex-jws.. "and so let freedom ring ... and when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of god's children, black men and white men, jews and gentiles, protestants and catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old negro spiritual, "free at last, free at last.
thank god almighty, we are free at last.".
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when will they announce my DA?
by Sarah inhow quickly do they announce a da?
it was last friday when my husband and i da'd ourselves.
this was just a verbal statement, i am not wasting a piece of paper and a stamp, just to tell them the same thing all over again.
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AngelofMuZiC
CONGRADULATIONS!!!!!
My Regards,
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regret my "former" life as a Witness
by Richie indisassociating yourself slowly or quickly is a matter of perspective; think about it: you lose either way, i.e.
the witnesses will treat you like you've become part of the "bodysnatchers" of the world and no matter how you rationalize it, there is no honorable way out in the eyes of the witnesses.. i was df'd about 1.5 years ago (as they said that i left the organization so it was entirely my fault, but little do they know that their organization left me, as i appealed the gb's decision), and the sudden break-off of family and friends in the truth is always devastating to say the least - it's an emotional explosion which in your wildest dreams would normally never ever happen....i can now understand what death means, at least in the beginning....yes i was dead though living - even though when i went back to the meetings afterwards, i could feel the lonely emptiness, the non-existence of myself.
yet when by accident i would be gazing straight into the eyes of one of my (former) friends, he would just stare past me as if i didn't exist at all even though i attempted to smile at him in indicating respect to him....how convenient for them to ignore a fellow friend and instead make me feel like the lowest person on earth - but then..of course they were taught to respond in this manner to anyone who is df'd.... then i though to myself...what would happen when eventually i would be re-instated: yes, then after the announcement most would want to see me at the end of the meeting all happy and oh so loving and wanting to be my best friend all over again - in a heartbeat they'll change from zombies to angelic like mortal creatures of love.... for this very reason i cannot return to the meetings in the hope of wanting to be re-instated and have this hypocrisy again heaped upon me like tentacles.
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AngelofMuZiC
I couldn't agree more Richie. It is important for all of us to lend a helping hand and a listening ear to one another, to give encouragement and strength. It is hard for others to understand our nature, because our background is so very different from the norm, and even the not so norm. We have lived with guilt and mind control, which, especially for those of us who 'grew up' with the 'truth', has molded and shaped most of our present day behavior. You may find yourself struggling to get rid of old ideas and opinions ingrained in you by the WTS...I know I do. There have been times where I have said or done things, without understanding why, until I analyzed the situation, coming to the realization that it stemmed from the teachings that I had accepted as pure and total truth. Just remember we are here to help.
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Oh May We Ever Live Up To Our Chosen Name!
by Englishman inthere are some really weird and interesting names on this site.
just out of interest, lets swap details of how we selected our chosen "stage name", it could be fun!.
i chose "englishman" when i first started to lurk at h20.
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AngelofMuZiC
This name of mine stems from a famous Broadway musical, The Phantom of the Opera, my favorite play of all!!! Christine, the damsel in distress calls her teacher, the Phantom, Angel of Music. I love Chrisitne's voice, and I have practiced long and hard to try to match it. One day, an ex-boyfriend heard me singing the song with this reference, and told me that I was his Angel of Music, because he loved the way I sang. I rather liked that compliment, and so I decided to call myself that, though I ditched the boyfriend. Too immature.
My Regards,
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regret my "former" life as a Witness
by Richie indisassociating yourself slowly or quickly is a matter of perspective; think about it: you lose either way, i.e.
the witnesses will treat you like you've become part of the "bodysnatchers" of the world and no matter how you rationalize it, there is no honorable way out in the eyes of the witnesses.. i was df'd about 1.5 years ago (as they said that i left the organization so it was entirely my fault, but little do they know that their organization left me, as i appealed the gb's decision), and the sudden break-off of family and friends in the truth is always devastating to say the least - it's an emotional explosion which in your wildest dreams would normally never ever happen....i can now understand what death means, at least in the beginning....yes i was dead though living - even though when i went back to the meetings afterwards, i could feel the lonely emptiness, the non-existence of myself.
yet when by accident i would be gazing straight into the eyes of one of my (former) friends, he would just stare past me as if i didn't exist at all even though i attempted to smile at him in indicating respect to him....how convenient for them to ignore a fellow friend and instead make me feel like the lowest person on earth - but then..of course they were taught to respond in this manner to anyone who is df'd.... then i though to myself...what would happen when eventually i would be re-instated: yes, then after the announcement most would want to see me at the end of the meeting all happy and oh so loving and wanting to be my best friend all over again - in a heartbeat they'll change from zombies to angelic like mortal creatures of love.... for this very reason i cannot return to the meetings in the hope of wanting to be re-instated and have this hypocrisy again heaped upon me like tentacles.
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AngelofMuZiC
Dearest Richie,
I must tell you that I found your story incredibly touching, yet heartbreaking. I almost wanted to cry reading it. I understand what you mean concerning the non-existence. Just yesterday, my mother (who is still a member) and I were walking into the grocery store. A witness woman, who at one time was a very dear friend said hello to my mother, and I looked at her. She looked right past me. My mother said to me, "say hello", thinking that maybe this woman would have a little compassion towards me and remember that I am still a human being. The woman coldly and rudly stated, "You KNOW that I cannot speak to her, so why are you telling her to say hello? What were you thinking?" My mother had a look of complete shock on her face, and ignored the woman, following me into the store. She told me she felt like crying, but then said, "don't worry dear. when the end comes, I have a feeling that a lot of people won't make it." I wanted to run after the woman and beat her senseless for being so cruel and heartless, especially in front of my mother. Anyway, thank you for sharing your story.
My Deepest Regards,
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What are your PET PEEVES? Register them here!
by Spartacus inwhat ticks you off, makes you grind your teeth and go absolutely nuts!
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AngelofMuZiC
SNORING!!!! IT IS THE MOST DETESTABLE SOUND THAT A HUMAN BEING CAN UTTER!!! And, drunkedness. I hate drunk people. They smell of liquor, which only reminds me of everything vile and repugnant. I think that's about it.
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Please answer this for me
by jayhawk1 ini have a question, that i would love answered.
especially if you are a woman.
men can answer too, but a woman's opinion really matters to me.
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AngelofMuZiC
too big of an age difference. she is only 18, if you are 25 as you say. young girls tend to fall hard and fast when they least expect to. they claim no feelings, but let me tell you...as soon as you bring another female into the house, a significant other, the girl may get jealous unvisibly, and the hostilities will begin. It's a tough call, but you have to do what you think is right. I just hope you can deal with any reprocussions.
My regards and good wishes,
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When did y'all find all this stuff out?
by bigboi inwas it before you left or after you left and what promtped your investigation?.
for me it happened a few days before christmas of last yr. it was right after my roommate purchased his computer.
i looked up jehovah on ms encarta, clicked on a link and as they say the rest is history.. i had just lost my job so i was able to spend a lot of time researching and looking into all kinds of shit.
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AngelofMuZiC
I started my investigation about a year after I stopped going. I originally stopped going at age 16, because I didn't like the way I was being treated by the people in my congregation. I told my mother that I would rather hang out with the friends I had from school would tell me to my face if they didn't like me than to smile and do a happy dance in my face, and then trash me behind my back the way the witnesses do. Then, my mother kept pressuring me to go back, and I thought about it a lot bcuz life was getting tough, and I thought that maybe Jehovah was trying to show me that I should go back. I went to a dinner with my mother over a family member's house, who is born again christian. My mother went over there because she was convinced that eventually she would turn them to Jehovah. (a born again? yeah, right.) Anyway, there was a man there who was a deacon in my cousin's church...they all started talking about the bible, and I was in the other room, because I hate when my mother starts talking...she gets loud, and misquotes and it is just embarrasing. But, I was listening in, and I heard them talking about some subject in which they were all wrong. I felt compelled to go out there and explain the subject and scripture to them. The deacon guy was very impressed with my extensive knowledge of the bible, at such a young age. (you don't really do much else as a Jdub kid) We then began a discussion, and he told me some things that were hard to swallow as truth, because of what I had ingrained in my head for so many years. But I did what he said, and for the first time, I actually wanted to read the bible. I couldn't put it down. With every book, I was finding missquotes and incorrect interpretations by the JW's. I investigated quite a lot of thier doctrines, which are false, and then I wrote a letter DA'ng myself, because "I didn;t think that I should belong to a organization who held beliefs that I was not certain are true". And the rest is history.
My Regards,
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The WTs Biggest Deceptions
by individual ini was just wondering what do the members of this board think the biggest deception in the teaching of the watchtower society is?.
one of the biggest deceptions for me, one that stuck like a thorn in my side was their deception on earthquakes, hence my previous thread on the last days.
the wts, as i recall, published supposed proof of the increase in earthquakes since 1914. i was so angry when i found out that this was an outright lie.
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AngelofMuZiC
I would have to say that the two biggest deceptions for me were 1) the global preaching work thing, and 2) the increase of lawlessness. I was constantly told that Jehovahs Witnesses were the only ones doing the preaching work, and I was reminded that this was a command from Jesus in Matthew whatever the hell the scripture is. I was told that I would be made fun of from my peers and other people and that we would be asked to leave certain places where we preached, and these were all signs that we were doing God's will. And because all the school kids made fun of me, and we were in fact asked to leave some private places, I believed this was the truth...when I was 10 yrs old!!! I also had it drilled into my head that the increase of lawlessness was more rampant than ever before. I was told that because of this, I could not go out and play with other kids because I might get kidnapped or something, and my mom would only show me the parts of the news that discussed a missing or murdered child, so I believed this was a sign of the end. The thought of increase of earthquakes and famine were too scary even to think about!!! (Those pictures of people with ribs showing really are gross!!!) I was so afraid of famine, that I would eat food that I hated, because my mom told me that I might not have more food tomarrow, and that I would go hungary!!! It is horrible the way these parents scar children's minds! That's my story.
My Regards,
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'Your Right To Believe' 1.8.01 WT !!!
by ISP inplease find below scanned in excerpts of the cover article of the 1/8/01 wt.
its another one of those articles which makes you say to yourself how can they print this!?..
under the heading your right to believe it has the following paragraph.
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AngelofMuZiC
This is what I call reverse psychology with a twist of circular logic. They say things, twist them around, and make it appear as if the believer has some leeway of freedom, thus convincing them this must be the truth, and there they stay, stuck on this lie treadmill. It is really sad.
My Regards,
Joanne