i have just finished reading a book called gender outlaw.
in this book the righter has an opion that gender is based on "moden life" rather then the "human form", ie do you look, act, talk and have the package of a male or female in your current state and even life upbringing - or were we born male or female and that is that.. if we look, act and talk and even have the package of the gender that we insist that we are, does that mean we are male or female ( i say that i am a woman, i have the package of a woman, i look like a woman and i talk like a woman, my drives licence and birth certificate say that im a woman) so what am i ???.
the reason that i am asking this is, i had a visit from a elder (that i have never meet before)and he was talking about my transexuality and the reason i was dfs.
Very interesting point Blondie
If the spirit realm is genderless that must mean that Jehovah does not view gender a very important.
Maybe he views all people as equal and does not discriminate genders> If this is the case then why does the Org put such a high piorety over male and females
Food for thougth
i have just finished reading a book called gender outlaw.
in this book the righter has an opion that gender is based on "moden life" rather then the "human form", ie do you look, act, talk and have the package of a male or female in your current state and even life upbringing - or were we born male or female and that is that.. if we look, act and talk and even have the package of the gender that we insist that we are, does that mean we are male or female ( i say that i am a woman, i have the package of a woman, i look like a woman and i talk like a woman, my drives licence and birth certificate say that im a woman) so what am i ???.
the reason that i am asking this is, i had a visit from a elder (that i have never meet before)and he was talking about my transexuality and the reason i was dfs.
The elder and my self were just having a conversation and as he agreed with my views on gender, I thought that I could get him to see the silly ways that the Jws think. He just put his own feeling aside and told me what the Organisation says
Bit shallow if you ask me
i have just finished reading a book called gender outlaw.
in this book the righter has an opion that gender is based on "moden life" rather then the "human form", ie do you look, act, talk and have the package of a male or female in your current state and even life upbringing - or were we born male or female and that is that.. if we look, act and talk and even have the package of the gender that we insist that we are, does that mean we are male or female ( i say that i am a woman, i have the package of a woman, i look like a woman and i talk like a woman, my drives licence and birth certificate say that im a woman) so what am i ???.
the reason that i am asking this is, i had a visit from a elder (that i have never meet before)and he was talking about my transexuality and the reason i was dfs.
I have just finished reading a book called Gender Outlaw. In this book the righter has an opion that gender is based on "moden life" rather then the "human form", ie do you look, act, talk and have the package of a male or female in your current state and even life upbringing - or were we born male or female and that is that.
If we look, act and talk and even have the package of the gender that we insist that we are, does that mean we are male or female ( I say that I am a woman, I have the package of a woman, I look like a woman and I talk like a woman, my drives licence and birth certificate say that Im a woman) So what am I ???
The reason that I am asking this is, I had a visit from a elder (that I have never meet before)and he was talking about my transexuality and the reason I was Dfs. He agreed with my above coment, I asked if there would ever be any chance that I could be reninstated? His answer at this time was not untill I revert back to being a male. Thing is I was never a full male to start with I was born "Hermaphodite" and never had the complete package of a male.
So I ask the Question to the readers
I have the package that a woman has, I look like a women, I talk like a women, my birth certificate say Im a woman, SO WHAT AM I????
Any answers please
you will soon be cordially invited to the kh.
its mem-bore-ial season and the hunt is on.....for you!.
plan your escape today!!!!
I got invited to this wine and cracker night comming up, thing is I don't the person that invited me and when I ask if I needed to bring any cheese he hung up on me. Go fig.
i just thought that i would share my life as a jw.
i was born into this cult in 1973. i was born as a hermaphodite (both sexes) this was of great shock to my parents, apparently the confided in one of the elders asking him what thay should do?
his respones was that i should be made male (the doctors at the time said i should be female) my parent took the avice of the elder and i was the made to be a male.. as i was growing up i beged my parents to allow me to be the person that god had wanted me to be but the elders kept reasuring me and my parent that god wanted me to be a male so that i could one day be a elder or s/overser.. in my teen years it became very apparent that my parents had made a mistake as i would act in a very female way.
I was sent to schoool but did not do very well as I was always being pick on and have major depresion most of my childhood I did not have the stamina to learn most of the basics.
Thank you all for your kind words and support it is just so nice to belive that there is some realy nice people in the world It is just so nice.
there is a pioneer in a nearby congregation, that my jw friend told me about recently.
this person is a woman, but used to be a man.
everyone has accepted her, and they all talk about what a good example, and what a wonderful pioneer she is.
I am a transexual that was dishfellowshiped from the Jws. I am not going to wright about it he but you are more then welcome to read my topic in the life experance forum it's called TWISTED LIFE.
The current standing is that Transexuality in any form is a big NO-NO
i was wondering if any one knows ofr any ex jws from bunbury western austraila, austraila.
im looking to meet old friends
I was wondering if any one knows ofr any ex Jws from Bunbury Western Austraila, Austraila. Im looking to meet old friends
i just thought that i would share my life as a jw.
i was born into this cult in 1973. i was born as a hermaphodite (both sexes) this was of great shock to my parents, apparently the confided in one of the elders asking him what thay should do?
his respones was that i should be made male (the doctors at the time said i should be female) my parent took the avice of the elder and i was the made to be a male.. as i was growing up i beged my parents to allow me to be the person that god had wanted me to be but the elders kept reasuring me and my parent that god wanted me to be a male so that i could one day be a elder or s/overser.. in my teen years it became very apparent that my parents had made a mistake as i would act in a very female way.
thank you all for your support I am seeing a phyciatres presantly and have been for around a year
Thank you all again for you support it is realy nise to know that there is life after the truth and that there is so many good people in would that are not beleivers
i just thought that i would share my life as a jw.
i was born into this cult in 1973. i was born as a hermaphodite (both sexes) this was of great shock to my parents, apparently the confided in one of the elders asking him what thay should do?
his respones was that i should be made male (the doctors at the time said i should be female) my parent took the avice of the elder and i was the made to be a male.. as i was growing up i beged my parents to allow me to be the person that god had wanted me to be but the elders kept reasuring me and my parent that god wanted me to be a male so that i could one day be a elder or s/overser.. in my teen years it became very apparent that my parents had made a mistake as i would act in a very female way.
The Elder said that males were more likly to have favor and that my lif could be of more use in the minestry work. My parents being devote Jws trusted that this was the word from god and still do thay think that Im making a mistake
i just thought that i would share my life as a jw.
i was born into this cult in 1973. i was born as a hermaphodite (both sexes) this was of great shock to my parents, apparently the confided in one of the elders asking him what thay should do?
his respones was that i should be made male (the doctors at the time said i should be female) my parent took the avice of the elder and i was the made to be a male.. as i was growing up i beged my parents to allow me to be the person that god had wanted me to be but the elders kept reasuring me and my parent that god wanted me to be a male so that i could one day be a elder or s/overser.. in my teen years it became very apparent that my parents had made a mistake as i would act in a very female way.
Hi all
I just thought that I would share my life as a Jw. I was born into this CULT in 1973. I was born as a hermaphodite (both sexes) this was of great shock to my parents, apparently the confided in one of the ELDERS asking him what thay should do? His respones was that I should be made male (the doctors at the time said I should be Female) My parent took the avice of the elder and I was the made to be a male.
As I was growing up I beged my parents to allow me to be the person that God had wanted me to be but the elders kept reasuring me and my parent that God wanted me to be a male so that I could one day be a Elder or S/overser.
In my teen years it became very apparent that my parents had made a mistake as I would act in a very female way. The Elder even had metting with me telling me that God hated the way I was acting and that I should suppress these things and try to be an upstanding member, This of cause lead to major depression and some suicide attempts. After child welfare was brought in my parents were forced to take me to see varies doctors who all confirmed that indeed I should have been made female at birth. This still did not go down the Jws and they sugested that I marry in order to sort my problems out. A young sister was selected and at age 21 I was marriade even though this was a sham it lasted 6 years untill I tryed to commit suicide for the 6th time in my life 3rd since being marride, my wife then Begged me to seek medical help against the wishes of the elder and she was reproved on that. I did and we went to marrige counselling as well. Duing this time I told my wife about the resons that I marride her and she was shocked that the elders had sugested such a thing and did not beleive me. Duing my treatment I decided that the doctors were infact correct and made the decision to become female this lead to me being Dishfellowshiped from the congegation even though there was so much medical evidence in my favor(the body of elders would not meet with any of my doctors to discuss the issue.
My parents no long communicate with me unless it is for very importate thing Although I am fortunate to have a brother and sister that have also seen the organisation for what it is and left. this does not help me as I am now 31 divorced, can not spell or right, can get a job as I have no education and to make things worse Im now labeled as a transexual ( if I had of been given the correct treatment at birth this would not be the case) I hate these people for what they have done to me, if it was not for my sister and brother then I would sure be dead now I am always trying to think of new ways to end my misory and have been in and out of hospitals all my life. these people realy have a lot to answer for
I have now been disfellowshiped for 1 year and at the age of 31 I am back at school leaning the basic thing that I could not learn as a child (Spelling etc) as there was now way I could learn these things when I was growing up. I thank Jehovah for allowing me to be disfellowshiped at this age before it was to late.
