Posts by SWALKER

2 In the desert the whole community grumbled against Moses and Aaron. 3 The Israelites said to them, "If only we had died by the LORD's hand in Egypt! There we sat around pots of meat and ate all the food we wanted, but you have brought us out into this desert to starve this entire assembly to death."

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BIG NEWS - RESPONSIBILITY

by peggy in

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i am sure i am in the minority, and i am as anxious as the next one to know what the big news is.

still.......i find the big news post irresponsible!

big today is far better for everyone, then big news is coming!

SWALKER

IT Support...this is exactly what I have a problem with:

News agencies, journalists (including religious correspondents) in 'serious' newspapers and news magazines.
If the Big News is about blood, include medical associations and organizations and medical 'trade' magazines and journals, journalists who specialize in medical matters (medical correspondents).and don't forget government health departments. Remember also lawyers who have handled blood or child abuse cases or who specialize in family matters.
If the Big News is about a legal matter, include legal associations and organizations, lawyers' 'trade' magazines and journals and journalists who specialize in legal matters (legal correspondents).
If the Big News is about a medical legal matter, we'll have struck gold and will be able use all our researched email addresses.

I hope this is NOT a blood issue...it has been before the courts for years and viewed upside down and inside out. I for one appreciate the Constitution upholding our rights to choose in this matter. I will NOT be an activist for trying to change freedom. That being said, I don't think that children should die at the hands of uneducated parents and I do agree that in that case drs. should administer what they feel is needed. If a dr. gives a child a blood transfusion and the parents disagree with that decision, then they will just have to get over it and realize it was the dr. not them that is responsible. I think the WTS should change their stance on that issue. But as an adult, I want the right to choose and I don't want to be forced to take any treatment that I don't want.

If, however, the GB owns bloodbanks, and is giving transfusions at Bethel, then I'm in! That would be BIG NEWS!!!

If it turns out that they have misrepresented what they have told their members, every religious organization out there does the same. Most people are smart enough to lead their own lives and show up for church for an hour on Sunday.

Swalker

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BeepBeep Needs to Know About 1975!!!

by SWALKER in

i know that many of you have the information discussing the watchtower's view on this and why so many thought it was going to be the beginning of armageddon and the mass exodus from the org when nothing happened.

i remember it very well and my mom telling me not to get my hopes up because she had been looking for the ancient worthies to appear for years at the assemblies and that never happened.

then they changed their prophesy on that too!!!

SWALKER

Min...I just thought that they may not for some reason be able to start a thread. Just didn't want to come across as mean and uncaring about their concerns...I thought about LL's thread on being nice to newbies!!!

BB--if you are interested here is a quote from watchtower:

*** Watchtower 1968 August 15 p.499 Why Are You Looking Forward to 1975? ***
30 Are we to assume from this study that the battle of Armageddon will be all over by the autumn of 1975, and the long-looked-for thousand-year reign of Christ will begin by then? Possibly, but we wait to see how closely the seventh thousand-year period of man's existence coincides with the sabbathlike thousand-year reign of Christ. If these two periods run parallel with each other as to the calendar year, it will not be by mere chance or accident but will be according to Jehovah's loving and timely purposes. Our chronology, however, which is reasonably accurate (but admittedly not infallible), at the best only points to the autumn of 1975 as the end of 6,000 years of man's existence on earth. It does not necessarily mean that 1975 marks the end of the first 6,000 years of Jehovah's seventh creative "day." Why not? Because after his creation Adam lived some time during the "sixth day," which unknown amount of time would need to be subtracted from Adam's 930 years, to determine when the sixth seven-thousand-year period or "day" ended, and how long Adam lived into the "seventh day." And yet the end of that sixth creative "day" could end within the same Gregorian calendar year of Adam's creation. It may involve only a difference of weeks or months, not years.
[Emphasis Added]

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BeepBeep Needs to Know About 1975!!!

by SWALKER in

i know that many of you have the information discussing the watchtower's view on this and why so many thought it was going to be the beginning of armageddon and the mass exodus from the org when nothing happened.

i remember it very well and my mom telling me not to get my hopes up because she had been looking for the ancient worthies to appear for years at the assemblies and that never happened.

then they changed their prophesy on that too!!!

SWALKER

This is what BB posted earlier:

""Too many lies. Too many secrets. Too many policies and teachings that are directly contrary to the Bible. It just isn't possible that God is with them.""

Really ? Would you care to explain this comment ? What policies and teachings do you see as contrary to the Bible ? What secrets ? What lies ? I have been looking to prove such to myself but have yet to find convincing evidence

However, just as an example, everthing I have looked at concerning the supposed teaching that the end would come in 1975 is a bust. Not there. People take a couple of statements and try to make them more than what was said.

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A little bit of news about the "Big News"

by AndersonsInfo in

i just learned about the release of the "big news" and was told that what i've been calling "big news" won't be released today or tomorrow but hopefully sometime this week.

if anyone is saying the 15th it is because we were told months ago that it would be mid-december when the big news would be released.

as soon as i know the day, you will know.

SWALKER

Thanks for keeping us informed!

Swalker

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BeepBeep Needs to Know About 1975!!!

by SWALKER in

i know that many of you have the information discussing the watchtower's view on this and why so many thought it was going to be the beginning of armageddon and the mass exodus from the org when nothing happened.

i remember it very well and my mom telling me not to get my hopes up because she had been looking for the ancient worthies to appear for years at the assemblies and that never happened.

then they changed their prophesy on that too!!!

SWALKER

I know that many of you have the information discussing the Watchtower's view on this and why so many thought it was going to be the beginning of Armageddon and the mass exodus from the org when nothing happened. I remember it very well and my mom telling me not to get my hopes up because she had been looking for the ancient worthies to appear for years at the assemblies and that never happened. Then they changed their prophesy on that too!!!

Swalker

P.S. BB-- We really don't mind discussing this but the other thread was not the place to do it. Don't be surprised though, if you have posters that are still upset by this topic as it ruined a lot of lives and dashed a lot of hopes.

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THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

by AndersonsInfo in

if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

have i ever misled you?

i'll answer that--no!

SWALKER

BeepBeep...this thread isn't a forum for arguing beliefs. There are a ton of threads here about 1975 and many other false prophesies. Please read these and then start your own thread about that if you want to discuss it. We are all trying to keep this thread going so that all on the board realize there is some Big News coming out.

Welcome and we look forward to your comments on this board!!!! Start a thread on 1975 and see how many people jump right on there!

Swalker

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1 Timothy 2:6

by defd in

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i was wondering why the new world translation says corresponding ransom , where as others do not.

anyone know where i can go and get a translation from greek to english.. d.

SWALKER

From what I understand it will be a news release as well as here.

Swalker

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1 Timothy 2:6

by defd in

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i was wondering why the new world translation says corresponding ransom , where as others do not.

anyone know where i can go and get a translation from greek to english.. d.

SWALKER

Apparently there is going to be some news announced maybe today or tomorrow and here is more of what Barbara says about it:

"I'm was having a bit of fun with my teasers although the subject of the Big News is not funny. That's the one and only hint I'm giving. But I might be misleading you. You'll know next week! Oh, and don't worry about WT figuring out what is going on because I want them to worry about what is going on!

Joe and I carefully read each and every post you put on this thread and sorry to keep you all on the edge about this. I'm actually not doing this to have fun, but to get everybody interested in the Big News. I just don't want to introduce the News next week cold turkey. It is very important information and if I was still a JW and found out about this, I really believe I would immediately walk away from the WT and never look back. I sincerely hope that thousands upon thousands do just that when they read for themselves how they have been bamboozled, duped and hoodwinked!

This information won't bring WT down immediately, but we, by our activism can cause it to lose all credibility in the eyes of the world and among their members. Just think what that will do to their arrogance.

I will be demanding an apology from the WT and if I know you all, you will do the same.

Another thing I want to say here. To the thousands of you who are lurkers and to those who are posters, when you find out just how deceiving the WT has been, you might seriously think about confronting all of your XJW relatives and make sure they know that we all gave our loyalty to a lying bunch of fools. It's time to stand up for what is right. When people stood up in Berlin, the Wall fell. Don't let the threat of disfellowshipping and shunning stop you cause we're going to win this battle. Now if you don't agree with me, that's okay. Only you know your cirumstances.

Another thing. When the Big News comes out, there will be many, many questions. Don't be cynical until you understand the full ramifications of the Big News. I knew the moment I saw it what it will do to the organization, but my background is a bit different than most of you.

I certainly agree with so many of your posts made here, but avishai said it wonderfully when he said, "Yes, there are brainwashed suckers for punishment that will NEVER leave the JW's. Duh. But these kinda news things bring out the SMART ones. OK? The ones that can benefit the most anyway. Or the hurt ones, who will finally get help on the outside." So be hopeful like the avishai class rather than cynical.

Barbara"