In my world, it is family before religion. My mother doesnt exsist to me, as I dont to her. Its all fair.
Animal
quite a thought, huh?
i was raised from birth as my family was in it 7 years before i was born ( 1952).
i remember wanting to go out for school sports in high school as my p.e.
In my world, it is family before religion. My mother doesnt exsist to me, as I dont to her. Its all fair.
Animal
quite a thought, huh?
i was raised from birth as my family was in it 7 years before i was born ( 1952).
i remember wanting to go out for school sports in high school as my p.e.
Thanks FlipperDude.... with all my experiences, I have become pretty street smart and that goes far in life. It all made me a better person.
On these boards, I am very able to pick and choose what post I read, or avoid. I dont read the JW belief stuff at all... I stay away from any political postings because I feel that exJWs arent very knowledgeable about govt etc since they were never into it. I mostly read and toss my 2 cents in only if it adds to a positive outlook.
FYI, I have been being hassled again into writing it all down, for my kids to read. They know little compared to the volumns of my life on the street. Who knows.
Animal
mrs. flipper and i were talking about this today.
since our dear friend core 88 has been feeling downhearted, my wife and i thought who else have we not heard from lately that could use some acknowledgement to let them know we all are thinking about them?
can you folks think of some posters who might be down or need to be helped to see they are needed or cared about when we don't hear from them?
While concern is a good thing, keep in mind that many people that were on here have found thier peace and no longer need what they once did from this site. I know many that "faded" away from here and are doing great without the constant reminders of the hell we lived.
I try to assume the best, not worst, for them.
Animal
quite a thought, huh?
i was raised from birth as my family was in it 7 years before i was born ( 1952).
i remember wanting to go out for school sports in high school as my p.e.
ok.. my turn... I am back in town and have some free time.
I was born in, or rather, my mother joined up after she was married and pregnant. My earliest memories were climbing around on a hard wooden folding chair... at a meeting I assume.
Mom raised us saying that our father chose to drink rather than being a father. We never saw him after I was 4, my sister a year younger. Fast forward 13 years when I accidently ran into him. He said he was told to convert to JW or get out. He said she could be one, but he wasnt interested. She made him leave. Lying bitch.
She would be in the JWs one year and not the next. We had xmas and birthdays one year and not the next. I thin the longest without the JWs in our lives was about 4 years in the mid 60's, when she was living with an IBM programmer dude. He was cool, treated us great, and had an income so we could actually do things like vacations, good xmases, etc. We came home one day to him carrying bags to his car.... you guessed it, she told him to be a JW or get out. He left. I looked him up as an adult and he told me all of it. Poor dude, he picked the wrong chick.
After tossing him out, she was having this JW dude there weekly, or more. He was eating there, watching tv there, we didnt much care, we were always busy. Then I caught them dry humping on the couch. Next thing I know, they got married and it was on.... we were to become the consumut JW family.
Mom was always a good one for hitting... do something bad and you get hit with the nearest thing she could reach. Mark Henry, the new JW husband, was different. He liked the leather belt.... and wouldnt stop until he got a sign that you were hurting. Being an ass, I wouldnt cry or yell, and he kept swinging, like a personal challenge to win over my hard headedness. He did this to both my sister and me. I wanted to kill him, really. I constantly dreamed up ideas of how I could do it without hurting my sis.
I was knocked unconsious once by him, punched to the head. I had shirts ripped off my back. Pushed against the Kingdom Hall backroom, him slamming my head against the cinderblock wall. He was an elder this whole time, in Drexel Hill, PA.
I had enuff, and decided that in 2 years or so, Armageddon was coming and I was dying. Soooooo...... might as well have fun before getting wipedout. We were on vacation in West Virginia, same time as a big assembly of course.... and the last nite there, I left the house we rented and never went back. I was 15 or 16...1972. I hitchhiked west, even getting picked up by a couple in a car, telling me I should consider coming with them to the JW assembly they were headed to!!! I got out the next exit.
Once settled on my own, I had an appartment, job, motorcycle, and lots of hoodlems for friends. I ended up in prison at 16, for 6 months. I grew up really fast.
All thru school, we were not allowed to do sports other than gym class. I was about 6 foot tall at 15 yrs old... football and basketball coaches asked me to sign up all the time. I couldnt even go watch the games at school, because of "bad associations". Damned idiots.
I ended up living near my sis, mom, and her elder husband by the time I was 18 or 19. Mom tried to get me to go to the hall, I told her I was too busy with my life to be bothered. She showed up once and there I was smoking. Without a word, she left.... a few weeks later, I get a letter saying I was DF'd. That week, we all had a huge keg party and burned the letter in celebration... I was finally free, since no one can now bother me.
I learned to lie, cheat, steal, and more skills in the JWs, which helped me survive on the streets as a runaway. I stole from the Drexel Hill Kingdom Hall, hundreds of dollars. I stole from a wedding we had at our house, mucho money. If anyone was a JW, they were my/our target... anywhere, anytime.
This is long enuff, you will have to wait for the book :) ... Needless to say, I am not that same rebellious kid. I have my own kids now and a grandkid. They have grown up normal... sports, plays, xmas, birthdays, and the wife took them to church. They are healthy good kids that I dont worry about making a life once I am gone.
One thing... you cannot dwell on your past. You had a bad childhood, you must get past it if you ever want to grow. You cannot blame current conditions on your childhood, other than the fact that your mental and emotional growth was stunted. Move on, ignore those that threaten to ignore you, and live! My mother still doesnt speak to me, doesnt know my kids, and never met her grandkid. I told her I refuse to speak to her while she is a JW, since she shuns me anyhow. Turnabout is fair play, in my mind.
I hope you enjoyed.
Animal
quite a thought, huh?
i was raised from birth as my family was in it 7 years before i was born ( 1952).
i remember wanting to go out for school sports in high school as my p.e.
It was limiting and horrid. I will write about it soon, when I am not heading to bed.
Animal
we will rename all the rides.
like..wathctower ... the escape.
raymond franz's revenge.
No can do... am doing a round trip to Phoenix this Saturday/Sunday.
Animal
Do big bear hugs work? Is all I know.
Animal
i'm not talking about internet friends, but friends close by in your town.. so, do you have as many friends as you would like to have?.
when i was young and going to school, i had a few friends, but now i don't have any friends, but on the other hand, i'm a loner and i don't really care.
i'm not really searching for friends.
I dont think everyone "wants" or "needs" lots of people around them. Some people with little self esteen rely on the number of friends as a way of acceptance. Others will try to fit into a niche by making lots of friends.
I think that all of us are different, we may need this or that, or not. I dont see it as something carried over from the past life... maybe we all just figured ourselves out and like/dislike a constant barrage of people.
I like my solo time.. the wife says I like it too well. Hehe.
Animal
especially about the bible??
why would jws rather argue and argue instead of admitting defeat and wrongdoing?
Right Twitch... and relearning how to act takes time and guidance.
Animal
so how many of you actually attended meetings when you went away on holidays?
remember, you shouldn't take a holiday from jehovah!.
when me and my mother went to visit my uncle in 1987, we attended every stinkin' meeting, including a congregation baseball game.
Yep, we went to meetings anywhere we went on vacation. I also agree that it was show.
A week at Ocean City.... Tuesday and Thursday nites and Sunday mornings. Saturday was spent pushing magazines to people also on vacation.
A week on Lake Pocono in PA.... same routine. I said I was sick, mom plays the "you cant be that sick" card... and that IF I stay home she will have to stay with me and miss out on her service.
Animal