we laid low for a week from picketing the kingdom hall.
i wanted to see how things would go with the emergency hearing before i continued.
because of the pending restraining order sara applied for, i cannot go within 100 yards of her or her husband, mark.
X,
Brownboy hates me. He was baiting me and trying to pick a fight. You took the bait. Please except my apologies if I offended you. my post was purely sattire and sarcasm toward Brownboy. I won't discuss this anymore, but please let's not let this get out of hand.
Corvin
we laid low for a week from picketing the kingdom hall.
i wanted to see how things would go with the emergency hearing before i continued.
because of the pending restraining order sara applied for, i cannot go within 100 yards of her or her husband, mark.
Your anger seems to cloud the point, that she did not read english and was curious. Which is an opportunity, just as she thought it was an opportunity to plant a "seed". It was Mike's opportunity to plant one too. I find your attack on her race, her ignorance and education sad.
I was not attacking her race, and SIMON, please lock this thread before this gets out of hand. Nobody took my comments offensively until brownboy, who has a problem with me anyway, said something.
Corvin
we laid low for a week from picketing the kingdom hall.
i wanted to see how things would go with the emergency hearing before i continued.
because of the pending restraining order sara applied for, i cannot go within 100 yards of her or her husband, mark.
Happyguy, I truly do thank you for sharing your story. I find it astonishing even in light of what we have been through. I do feel something for what you have been through and I am glad you have your kids now.
Corvin
we laid low for a week from picketing the kingdom hall.
i wanted to see how things would go with the emergency hearing before i continued.
because of the pending restraining order sara applied for, i cannot go within 100 yards of her or her husband, mark.
A very very hispanic JW woman approached Mike and asked in heavily accented broken english what he was "advertising". Mike laughed and said it was something her church practiced on a daily basis. She tried witnessing to him and Mike was dumbfounded at her stupidity.What an odd statement, hmmm................I just thought I would give you guys a little something to chuckle about.
Brownboy
Yes, brown, she was very very very very hispanic, in fact, the most hispanic person I have ever seen in my life, even more than any of the hispanics I knew while I lived in Mexico, B.C. and attended a spanish speaking congregation where I gave parts on the ministry school while speaking very very very fluent hispanic spanish as opposed to the very dutch spanish spoken by most indonesians living in the carribean. And the very very very very hispanic woman's question was extremely stupid and typical of morons who just happen to be hispanic Jehovah's Witnesses. It was like watching Hank Azaria from the Bird Cage trying to start a Bible study with Nathan Lane, but in drag. It was very funny. Yes, brownboy, ethnic stereotypes are very very funny and can be very very very funny without a hint of racism if that is what you are implying. Ethnic stereotypes are used throughout literature, TV, theatre and movies, and are used to make us laugh our arses off when we reconize it and identify with it. She was typical hispanic woman from south of the boarder speaking in very funny broken english and OMG it was very very very very funny in the context of the situation. What? Nobody told her about apostates and picket signs???? Now that is funny, and she was stupid, not because she was very very very hispanic, but because she was trying to convert and/or redeem Mike from apostasy with her preach-by-numbers Reasoning From The Scriptures publication. Now that was funny!
BTW, I thought you had left . . . and FYI, Mike, my future son-in-law is very very very hispanic too. His very hispanic mother and I attended hi school together. Both Mike and his mom thought the very hispanic JW woman was an idiot too.
we laid low for a week from picketing the kingdom hall.
i wanted to see how things would go with the emergency hearing before i continued.
because of the pending restraining order sara applied for, i cannot go within 100 yards of her or her husband, mark.
We all know the WT 'watches' these boards and we all know they have a fleet of very clever lawyers and lastly...we all know what they will do in the name of "spiritual warfare"...they'll lie.
They will do what they will do. Let's see just how important this little stink in San Diego is to them. Some keep telling me what kind of a mistake I might be making. Coming after me just might be their mistake. I am pissed and have nothing to lose. My kids are safe and the judge has ruled what he has ruled. Let them come after me if it means that much to them.
Corvin
upcoming episode of law & order- svu (special victims unit).
detectives investigate a string of child molestation cases involving a promenint new york based religious society; tim robbins guest-stars ?
after detective benson (mariska hargitay) discovers her nephew (joey morsina) was sexually abused by a church leader, she and detective stabler (christopher meloni) find themselves up against a solid wall of cover-ups and denial by church officials.
UPCOMING EPISODE OF LAW & ORDER- SVU (SPECIAL VICTIMS UNIT) DETECTIVES INVESTIGATE A STRING OF CHILD MOLESTATION CASES INVOLVING A PROMENINT NEW YORK BASED RELIGIOUS SOCIETY; TIM ROBBINS GUEST-STARS ? After Detective Benson (Mariska Hargitay) discovers her nephew (Joey Morsina) was sexually abused by a church leader, she and Detective Stabler (Christopher Meloni) find themselves up against a solid wall of cover-ups and denial by church officials. The child abuse problem within the religion goes deeper than they ever suspected as they learn of the organization?s strict rules and policies that silence the victims and protect the pedophiles. Detective Benson learns through a former high-ranking church member (Tim Robbins) that the child molestation problem is all-pervasive and there are literally thousands of unreported sexual abuse cases within the organization with the abusers running free to offend again. Dann Florek, Richard Belzer, Diane Neal, B.D. Wong and Ice-T also star. TV-14 Ok, this is not a real upcoming episode of Law & Order SVU, but it really should be.
Corvin
us criticises religious .
discrimination in belgium
source: expatica (belgium) http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=48&story_id=11964&name=us+criticises+religious+freedom+in+belgium.
As many of you know, I have just gone through, and am still going through and incident in which a Family Law Court Commissioner/Judge ruled that the Jehovah's Witness religion is HARMFUL to my children. His order includes that mother, step-father and any other friends or family members who are Jehovah's Witnesses DO NOT talk about their religious beliefs to our children. Any violation of that order constitutes contempt of court and requires the violator pay fines and/or do jail time.
What's my point? Some might view this as religious intolorance. It is not. Freedom of religion is a very personal thing and the courts avoid interfering with a parents right to teach their children religion. A parent's first amendment right can be altered by the courts to ensure the safety and welfare of the children.
When it comes to the JW religion, we are talking about parents who will, at any cost, make sure their children stay inside the organization. If that child is pushed to attempt suicide and that child is successful, the parent will then rationalize that the child is better of and will resurrected. That parent believes that he/she did everything in their power to bring up their child in the mental regulating of Jehovah and they not blood guilty, but simply obeying Jehovah regarding child rearing. They actually reason that the child is better off dead and awaiting the resurrection than to be under the satanic and wicked influence of the non-JW parent. This is serious life and death stuff and I don't give a good goddaamn about a person's religioius rights when those rights infringe on the health and welfare of an innocent child. The courts see it my way, thank god!
We all came from the org, and as nice as most of the folks are, they are programmed to do damage and harm when they see a threat, and the non-JW parent truly represents a threat in their mind to the child's spiritual wellbeing. As in my case, and I think it is very typical, when Nancy told the PO in the congregation that she was tired of the fights and abuse in her JW mother and stepfather's home and wanted to live with me, the PO told her it would be putting her in grave spiritual danger. That one statement created a feeling of hopelessness and dispair in my young daughter and created suicideal ideation that is now difficult to reverse. The PO was in effect telling Nancy, "Sorry, honey, we gotcha, you're trapped and you ain't going nowhere as long as I have something to say about it, and I don't care if you are suffering and in terrible emotional pain. You just need to be more obedient, cooperative and stop making waves. Then your mom and stepdad will stop being such arseholes".
THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG with this religion and any parent's right to indoctrinate their children in a religion should be closely looked at when it puts a child at risk or causes actual or substantial harm. Their rights in such an instance should be taken away for the sake of that child.
Corvin
i am putting together a website geared toward non-sexual jw child abuse.
i am in the midst of getting clinical assistance from mental healthcare professionals and many others are wanting to get on board.
the link to the first page is below.
I am putting together a website geared toward non-sexual JW child abuse. I am in the midst of getting clinical assistance from mental healthcare professionals and many others are wanting to get on board. The link to the first page is below. If anyone would like to contribute, It would be make a great difference. Your experiences as a JW kid, being the kid of a JW elder, anything is welcome. Thank you in advance for your support.
The page is just a rough sample of what the site will contain.
for those of you just joining us, here are the links to the story as it unfolded.
minors shall have visitation with their mother, until further order of the court, as follows:
jw?s abuse my kids - elders do nothing to stop it
Sheila, thank you very much and I appreciate your comments. But please don't worry, dear, I am way ahead of ya on this one. This is a great opportunity to give the old fool enough rope as they say.
To all, thanks for sharing my thing with me, and for letting me share my thing with you. It helped keep me sane and I am going to do good things with what I have learned.
My Best,
Corvin
how much harm did you cause to the people in your congregation?
everybody complains how the witnesses did this and that and in the process caused so much harm.
but what you don't say is how much pain you caused others while you were in.
lol... yes... I remember that too. Every congregation I went to had everyone running around getting involved in all sorts of get-rich-quick schemes, miracle cures, herbs, "natural" therapies, organic food, acupressure, reflexology, Amway... you name it they were doing it.
Ha ha ha, Derick Barefoot's mom was running around our congregation trying to sell everyone water filters. She tried to get me into "sponsoring into the company" to become a distributor and make lots of money. She was a nice lady, but very annoying.
Oh yes, now I remember some harm I caused a young sister. We were 17 and newly baptized. I would sneak over to her apartment in the morning after her mom went to work. We played and we played and we had so much fun on cold winter mornings curled up in her soft bed talking and laughing, making out, showering and stuff. The things we did made her toes curl and her eyelids flutter. What harm did I cause her? None. But I caused much harm to the brother she eventually married. You see, she later told me that after spending so much time with me, she throws rocks at her husband whenever he comes near her. Sorry Jason
Corvin
