William Penwell - I can't quote you directly because this site won't let me (how the hell is everyone else doing it, though?) but regarding the erasing of memories, there is one thing that doesn't make any sense: what if one or both of your parents aren't resurrected? Sure, God can erase them from your memory, but you will always know that you HAD parents. He can't possibly erase that fact. I mean, you'll look around and see parents and their children everywhere, and you'll know that you yourself certainly didn't just appear out of thin air. You'll KNOW that someone had to create you, and you would wonder who your parents are and WHERE they are. That's a sad thought.
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JW's know how to guilt trip....
by HereIgo inwhen i left the org, the jw's tried their best to guilt trip me.
some of the questions i was asked and things i was told:.
"how could you possibly be happy outside of jehovah's organization?
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JW's know how to guilt trip....
by HereIgo inwhen i left the org, the jw's tried their best to guilt trip me.
some of the questions i was asked and things i was told:.
"how could you possibly be happy outside of jehovah's organization?
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redpilltwice - I would love to ask this person why Jehovah didn't bother to tell us that blood transfusions are a sin until fairly recently in human history. Did he want all those people to sin and doom themselves before he made his views on blood perfectly clear? And why did it take him millennia to "correct" his mistake? Hmmmmmm?
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Potential Muslim convert
by StopTheTears inabout a month ago, i purchased arabic/english gospels of john that contain a commentary for muslims.. .
i went to one of my neighbors and spoke to him and gave him one.
fast forward to today, my brakes need done so i took my car to the shop, walking back into my street i saw my friend abdullah outside.. .
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honest - Christianity is far more evil than Islam. Just look at the numbers, the sheer MILLIONS who have been killed in the name of the Christian god. Nowhere near as many have been killed in the name of Allah. And no, I'm not saying Islam is much better, but it IS far less evil than you think. NEVER just blindly believe what others tell you when you know damn well that they aren't religious scholars. Your average American knows jack shit about any religion outside of their own because they refuse to educate themselves, and it is that willful ignorance that leads to the death of innocent people.
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Jesus, the Great Convincer?
by Simon insupposedly the disciples witnessed jesus' super-power awesomeness first-hand.. so they were all 100% on-board to-the-death martyrs ... right?.
erm .... judas betrayed him.
thomas didn't believe he'd come back.
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Jesus forgave them, that's why they're included. And somebody HAD to betray him in order for him to be crucified. Do you honestly think the son of God (assuming there is one) would have no idea one of the disciples he chose would someday betray him?
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Today's Text - Jehovah is my helper!
by Divergent intuesday, october 18. jehovah is my helper; i will not be afraid.—heb.
13:6.. “people often comment about how happy jehovah’s witnesses are,” says a longtime elder in a developing country.
“they also notice that even poor witnesses are always nicely dressed and appear to be better off than others.” this harmonizes with the promise jesus made to those who put the kingdom first.
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3. “They also notice that even poor Witnesses are always nicely dressed and appear to be better off than others.”
Yes, because they're pressured to spend what little money they have on eye-pleasing outfits to wear to meetings. Women may be able to find nice dresses, blouses and skirts at thrift stores (some of the best clothes I've ever owned are from such places) but men and boys have no such luck. Those suits don't come cheap, and it's extremely rare to find one (in good condition, no less) at a thrift store, meaning they have to pay full price. Growing boys better hope they have an older brother to receive hand-me-downs from, or their poor parents will have to shell out $$$ for a new suit every few months.
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Is Watchtower now loosening the bedroom rules?
by OneGenTwoGroups ini was at my assembly when this was discussed last week.
of course i hadn't prepared and i heard "no rules about limits", or at least i thought i did.. here's the direct quote from the watchtower study article.. "although the bible does not provide specific rules about the kinds and limits of love play that might be associated with natural sexual intimacy, it mentions displays of affection.
the watchtower (study edition) august 2016 : making christian marriage a success, paragraph 8.. what say you?.
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How do you quote someone on here? The quote button does nothing.
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What if all JWs had put off having children?
by keyser soze incould the religion have survived?.
i know it was never forbidden, but i remember growing up, how we were encouraged to put it off until the new system, and instead focus on a career in the full time service.. can you imagine if every young jw had chosen to follow that counsel?
it's difficult to imagine the religion being sustainable without the next generation of born-ins..
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I always heard that it had more to do with the scriptures regarding "woe to the pregnant woman and the nursing mother in those days" than the desire to focus on serving Jehovah. The JWs I've spoken to about it seem truly concerned that, during the tribulation, things will be especially difficult for pregnant and nursing mothers, and they also don't want to subject children to the misery of the "last days."
I know a thirty-something JW couple who, although they've been married for over a decade, have not and do not plan to have kids in this system for those very reasons, even though they really do want kids. I just picture them in their golden years, still in this system, with no adult children to care for them in their advanced age and no little grandchildren to bring them joy. They're probably going to end up being that creepy childless couple that simply ADORES all their friends' and relatives' kids just a liiiiittle too much.
Too bad JWs are discouraged from pursuing higher education, since that often leads to better pay, and with a decent enough income, they could adopt. And just think about how perfect adoption would be for a JW. They wouldn't be bringing any new children into "the last days of this satanic system" but would be helping a child that already exists. They'd finally have a child to love and impose their religion on. I'm actually kind of surprised the Watchtower hasn't come to this conclusion yet. :p -
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Blood is thicker than water??
by HereIgo ini remember a co saying from the platform, " people often say blood is thicker than water.
well not in jehovah's organization" i don't know about anyone else, but it sure rubbed me the wrong way and one of the million reasons why i left!.
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The saying "Blood is thicker than water" is often wrongly interpreted, and in fact, is being paraphrased here, which contributes to the misinterpretation. The full quote is "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb," meaning that bonds forged over a common cause - such as brothers in arms at war, or even a literal blood covenant - are stronger than any bond dictated by familial relations. Two people uniting in the face of adversity will naturally share a strong bond; two people being related to each other won't necessarily even like each other. -
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New, but needed to vent- thank you :-)
by Danni Jackson ini discovered your website this morning as i was trying to find some information about 'marking'.
you see a very close friend of mine was 'marked' earlier this week and as i know the ins and outs of the situation (as we are close friends) i disregarded the talk immediately as i know my friend is obviously having issues but is no way a 'danger' to anybody else's spiritual health.
basically they are dating a non-believer- hence the talk.
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I know a lady whose daughter has schizophrenia, dissociative identity disorder, and a few other things. I have met a couple of her personalities. She is a JW and, in her early thirties, is currently in her third marriage. The previous two ended in divorce on her part. No adultery, no abuse, nothing. And no, they didn't leave her due to her mental illnesses. She left them. She is very happy with her current husband, whom she has been with for several years now. Even some of her less loving personalities love him. This man is not a JW. And yet, despite all of this, she has never been disfellowshipped, shunned, brought before a judicial committee, or even marked.
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Final Rejection
by Disassociated Lady 2 ini have just returned from visiting friends and family.
when i was disassociated my parents had contact with me a few months before my dad was diagnosed with cancer.
i was reinstated 20 months after his funeral and then they disfellowshipped me 5 months later as they are convinced i had not changed my life enough to be a jw again.
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berrygerry That passage strictly refers to married men.