Nevuela

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  JW's and the forgotten Jesus

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  2. beliefs

  so as i have been waking up more and more over the past 3 years...i keep telling myself i'm fully awake and then i wake up more, but that's a different thread.

  but anyway, i've noticed a lot lately that the wt does not mention jesus or christ very much in their literature and neither to jw's in their conversations.

  they mainly talk about jehovah.

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  *Nada, not notta.

  Aaannnd I just realized how dumb that sounds. >_<
  
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  It was never, ever, a warning work, was it?

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  most witnesses i knew were exteeemly reluctant to go out in the ministry.

  but when they did, they were simply scraping by, eager to avoid conflict and just do their hour or so speaking to lonely old ladies or widowed old men.

  placing magazines in a car group, doing route calls, plodding along in the utter boredom of their responsibility to get some time on a report by the last day of the month.. this was never a warning work.

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  Black Sheep With people like that, I just say to them "Well, God knows the truth, and I'm pretty sure He doesn't approve of you lying, especially about His word." Of course, most of them are delusional enough to be able to commit the mental gymnastics necessary to keep themselves in the right, so it usually ends up being pointless. :p
  
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  JW's know how to guilt trip....

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i left the org, the jw's tried their best to guilt trip me.

  some of the questions i was asked and things i was told:.

  "how could you possibly be happy outside of jehovah's organization?

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  William Penwell - I can't quote you directly because this site won't let me (how the hell is everyone else doing it, though?) but regarding the erasing of memories, there is one thing that doesn't make any sense: what if one or both of your parents aren't resurrected? Sure, God can erase them from your memory, but you will always know that you HAD parents. He can't possibly erase that fact. I mean, you'll look around and see parents and their children everywhere, and you'll know that you yourself certainly didn't just appear out of thin air. You'll KNOW that someone had to create you, and you would wonder who your parents are and WHERE they are. That's a sad thought.
  
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  JW's know how to guilt trip....

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i left the org, the jw's tried their best to guilt trip me.

  some of the questions i was asked and things i was told:.

  "how could you possibly be happy outside of jehovah's organization?

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  redpilltwice - I would love to ask this person why Jehovah didn't bother to tell us that blood transfusions are a sin until fairly recently in human history. Did he want all those people to sin and doom themselves before he made his views on blood perfectly clear? And why did it take him millennia to "correct" his mistake? Hmmmmmm?
  
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  Potential Muslim convert

  by StopTheTears in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  about a month ago, i purchased arabic/english gospels of john that contain a commentary for muslims.. .

  i went to one of my neighbors and spoke to him and gave him one.

  fast forward to today, my brakes need done so i took my car to the shop, walking back into my street i saw my friend abdullah outside.. .

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  honest - Christianity is far more evil than Islam. Just look at the numbers, the sheer MILLIONS who have been killed in the name of the Christian god. Nowhere near as many have been killed in the name of Allah. And no, I'm not saying Islam is much better, but it IS far less evil than you think. NEVER just blindly believe what others tell you when you know damn well that they aren't religious scholars. Your average American knows jack shit about any religion outside of their own because they refuse to educate themselves, and it is that willful ignorance that leads to the death of innocent people.
  
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  Jesus, the Great Convincer?

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  supposedly the disciples witnessed jesus' super-power awesomeness first-hand.. so they were all 100% on-board to-the-death martyrs ... right?.

  erm .... judas betrayed him.

  thomas didn't believe he'd come back.

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  Jesus forgave them, that's why they're included. And somebody HAD to betray him in order for him to be crucified. Do you honestly think the son of God (assuming there is one) would have no idea one of the disciples he chose would someday betray him?
  
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  Today's Text - Jehovah is my helper!

  by Divergent in

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  tuesday, october 18. jehovah is my helper; i will not be afraid.—heb.

  13:6.. “people often comment about how happy jehovah’s witnesses are,” says a longtime elder in a developing country.

  “they also notice that even poor witnesses are always nicely dressed and appear to be better off than others.” this harmonizes with the promise jesus made to those who put the kingdom first.

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  3. “They also notice that even poor Witnesses are always nicely dressed and appear to be better off than others.”

  Yes, because they're pressured to spend what little money they have on eye-pleasing outfits to wear to meetings. Women may be able to find nice dresses, blouses and skirts at thrift stores (some of the best clothes I've ever owned are from such places) but men and boys have no such luck. Those suits don't come cheap, and it's extremely rare to find one (in good condition, no less) at a thrift store, meaning they have to pay full price. Growing boys better hope they have an older brother to receive hand-me-downs from, or their poor parents will have to shell out $$$ for a new suit every few months.
  
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  Is Watchtower now loosening the bedroom rules?

  by OneGenTwoGroups in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was at my assembly when this was discussed last week.

  of course i hadn't prepared and i heard "no rules about limits", or at least i thought i did.. here's the direct quote from the watchtower study article.. "although the bible does not provide specific rules about the kinds and limits of love play that might be associated with natural sexual intimacy, it mentions displays of affection.

  the watchtower (study edition) august 2016 : making christian marriage a success, paragraph 8.. what say you?.

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  How do you quote someone on here? The quote button does nothing.
  
  
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  What if all JWs had put off having children?

  by keyser soze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  could the religion have survived?.

  i know it was never forbidden, but i remember growing up, how we were encouraged to put it off until the new system, and instead focus on a career in the full time service.. can you imagine if every young jw had chosen to follow that counsel?

  it's difficult to imagine the religion being sustainable without the next generation of born-ins..

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  I always heard that it had more to do with the scriptures regarding "woe to the pregnant woman and the nursing mother in those days" than the desire to focus on serving Jehovah. The JWs I've spoken to about it seem truly concerned that, during the tribulation, things will be especially difficult for pregnant and nursing mothers, and they also don't want to subject children to the misery of the "last days."
  
  I know a thirty-something JW couple who, although they've been married for over a decade, have not and do not plan to have kids in this system for those very reasons, even though they really do want kids. I just picture them in their golden years, still in this system, with no adult children to care for them in their advanced age and no little grandchildren to bring them joy. They're probably going to end up being that creepy childless couple that simply ADORES all their friends' and relatives' kids just a liiiiittle too much.
  
  Too bad JWs are discouraged from pursuing higher education, since that often leads to better pay, and with a decent enough income, they could adopt. And just think about how perfect adoption would be for a JW. They wouldn't be bringing any new children into "the last days of this satanic system" but would be helping a child that already exists. They'd finally have a child to love and impose their religion on. I'm actually kind of surprised the Watchtower hasn't come to this conclusion yet. :p
  
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  Blood is thicker than water??

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i remember a co saying from the platform, " people often say blood is thicker than water.

  well not in jehovah's organization" i don't know about anyone else, but it sure rubbed me the wrong way and one of the million reasons why i left!.

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  The saying "Blood is thicker than water" is often wrongly interpreted, and in fact, is being paraphrased here, which contributes to the misinterpretation. The full quote is "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb," meaning that bonds forged over a common cause - such as brothers in arms at war, or even a literal blood covenant - are stronger than any bond dictated by familial relations. Two people uniting in the face of adversity will naturally share a strong bond; two people being related to each other won't necessarily even like each other.