Posts by XQsThaiPoes

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How can an 'impersonal force' feel hurt?? (Isa 63: 10 NWT)

by Tyre in

but they themselves rebelled and made his holy spirit feel hurt.

he now was changed into an enemy of theirs; he himself warred against them.

*how can an 'impersonal force' feel hurt??

XQsThaiPoes

I'm convinced Scripture is only God-Breathed IN PERSON! In other words, until Scripture has been God-Breathed into your spirit {Directly} by God's Holy Spirit ...it isn't Inspired {to you}! So... "Inspired" doesn't refer to the one who God used to write His words {only}: "Inspired" means Creator-->creature: DIRECT! {"Divine-Telemetry" -or- "Automatic-Pilot-Homing-Transmission"}

That means YOU! That's what Paul's talking about above! Read it again! {"Take another think!"} That's what Jesus kept Talking about! That's why God put His Holy Spirit inside you [see Ezk 36:72]: to guide and teach and mold and change and walk and talk and Love you FROM WITHIN YOU! That's what "Made In His Image" ...MEANS!

Don't you remember, in Lk 17:21 Jesus said, "... for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you." And again in Mat 6:21 "For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also". [What you want you choose - what you choose you become - & remain!; "sow/reap"?]

Having been "born again" of the Holy Spirit of the Living God and "Made" (Adopted as) "sons of God"; having been "Sealed" by the "Gift of the Spirit"; do we have this "Pearl of Great Price" (HIDDEN TREASURE!) within us "going to waste" (as it were) for lack of acknowledgment (unbelief) on our part? ["In earthen vessels"]

Thats fine um you just paraphrased what JWs believe about the holy spirit, and anouced to the world you are anointed.,, more power to you.

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How can an 'impersonal force' feel hurt?? (Isa 63: 10 NWT)

by Tyre in

but they themselves rebelled and made his holy spirit feel hurt.

he now was changed into an enemy of theirs; he himself warred against them.

*how can an 'impersonal force' feel hurt??

XQsThaiPoes

Can anyone support me. Forget the trinity issue. THe holy spirit refenced here in isa 63 is an angel, and not part of the god head. It is the antonym to an unholy spirit. You may be able to argue other verses but this one is not talking about a part of the godhead. THe holy spirit here feels hurt because it is an angel.

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How can an 'impersonal force' feel hurt?? (Isa 63: 10 NWT)

by Tyre in

but they themselves rebelled and made his holy spirit feel hurt.

he now was changed into an enemy of theirs; he himself warred against them.

*how can an 'impersonal force' feel hurt??

XQsThaiPoes

Um in all truthfulness this passage is not talking about the holy spirit but, a holy spirit. In the popular trinity the holyspirt is God in this verse this holy spirit is owned by God.

Here is from the NIV isa 63

9 In all their distress he too was distressed,
and the angel of his presence saved them.
In his love and mercy he redeemed them;
he lifted them up and carried them
all the days of old.
10 Yet they rebelled and grieved his Holy Spirit.
So he turned and became their enemy
and he himself fought against them.

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CNN , Headline News , and 1914 , hhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm !!!!!!!!!!

by run dont walk in

saw a great little piece on headline news or cnn the other night, they showed a memorial celebration of the 90th year of world war one.

now think about this, how many veterans do you think attended from world war one ???????.

the one veteran who layed down a wreath, was 108, and he talked a little, the best he could, and thanking his fellow war heroes.. this piece really hit home with me, because, didn't the watchtower once say, the generation of 1914 will not pass away, remember the early teaching, "they would have to be able to understand the things going on", "first started with 15 years olds, then ten year old, then can't be babies born, then can be babies born.

XQsThaiPoes

i'll let you hold on to your 1914/ww1 fallacy.

Umm I know a place with several think boks that state world war 1 started in 1914. If you have any evidence contrary to that I would gladly love to see it.

The french revolution was a landmark war.

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WT Sep 1 tribute to JWD and Silent Lambs

by ezekiel3 in

fresh from the sep 1, 2004 watchtower ?beware of the voice of strangers?.

typed as published although highlights are mine.

(the pictures are from the same with comments added.).

XQsThaiPoes

Actually they are saying the media is a victim of faulty sources.

Anyway you can read the words on the page like I do our you can look for encrypted messages in the tea leaves. I prefer looking for what they actually print. This article is stupid.

It goes out of its way to defend its self against strawmen and never addresses any of the issues. It gets so enamored by this technique it makes pro-stawman for the JWs then nocks them down. It is obvious the article was written by some commitee that had intellectual integrity. THey new the truth so instead of just lying whole souled they had to attack things that is not even a problem such as sponsoring church vandalism. JW children have ritualisticaly murdered their parents. The watchtower could have easily put "In another one, a report accused Witnesses of ~~vandalizing churches~~ [ritual murders]"

Then they make broad generalizations straight from WT legal.

It is unwise to believe everything presented as truth in the media. While we certainly do not distrust all secular information, we do recognize that ?the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.? ? 1 John 5:19

In other words JWs trust most information that is not writen by arguably mythical creatures namely Satan the Devil. That is a great statement. Much like their take on childmolestation it is easier to blame demons for the emotional distress than real people for miss handling the problem. Why because the devil and his demons can't sue your A* for defamation, and it keeps them from having to comment on what happens in the real world which they may expose liability for.

They should have never had printed this article because it does not make any real arguments. Infact it may get some JWs to look up the hypothetical reports mentioned.

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WT Sep 1 tribute to JWD and Silent Lambs

by ezekiel3 in

fresh from the sep 1, 2004 watchtower ?beware of the voice of strangers?.

typed as published although highlights are mine.

(the pictures are from the same with comments added.).

XQsThaiPoes

You know what pissed me of about the FDS doctrine. It is wonderful until they explain what it means. They claim around 1919 Jesus took the talent from the churches to preach and gave it to them. THis is a fine concept. In no place when they are explaining this they say jesus wants you to listen to them, and submit your autonomy to them. THere is a weird disjunction that i dont even think they understand.

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CNN , Headline News , and 1914 , hhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm !!!!!!!!!!

by run dont walk in

saw a great little piece on headline news or cnn the other night, they showed a memorial celebration of the 90th year of world war one.

now think about this, how many veterans do you think attended from world war one ???????.

the one veteran who layed down a wreath, was 108, and he talked a little, the best he could, and thanking his fellow war heroes.. this piece really hit home with me, because, didn't the watchtower once say, the generation of 1914 will not pass away, remember the early teaching, "they would have to be able to understand the things going on", "first started with 15 years olds, then ten year old, then can't be babies born, then can be babies born.

XQsThaiPoes

You are acting like a baby now. The first tank was drawn by Leonardo De vinche. It was powered by hand, cranks and would only work on a billiard smooth surface.

I and not going to humour you any more, but you could admitt honerably when you are wrong. You are taking proven history and changing it because you dont want to loose an argument. That is sad. World war 1 was a land mark war. Their have been many land mark wars. Just because world war 1 is one of them is not the watchtowers fault.

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CNN , Headline News , and 1914 , hhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm !!!!!!!!!!

by run dont walk in

saw a great little piece on headline news or cnn the other night, they showed a memorial celebration of the 90th year of world war one.

now think about this, how many veterans do you think attended from world war one ???????.

the one veteran who layed down a wreath, was 108, and he talked a little, the best he could, and thanking his fellow war heroes.. this piece really hit home with me, because, didn't the watchtower once say, the generation of 1914 will not pass away, remember the early teaching, "they would have to be able to understand the things going on", "first started with 15 years olds, then ten year old, then can't be babies born, then can be babies born.

XQsThaiPoes

The problem I have is that Noah's Generation was filled with near immortal super humans and half demons. A life span of 120 years is only a recent achievement and is far from common.To Imagine the falacy Noah did not have his sons until he was 500 years old and lived 350 years after the flood. That makes a generation in noahs day aroun maybe 800 years.

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WT Sep 1 tribute to JWD and Silent Lambs

by ezekiel3 in

fresh from the sep 1, 2004 watchtower ?beware of the voice of strangers?.

typed as published although highlights are mine.

(the pictures are from the same with comments added.).

XQsThaiPoes

THis is a dumb article I gotta read it in person. Anyone notices every other sentance conflicts with the last or its self, and that the accusattions the watchtower denies are not the exact ones they were accused of. They also declare individual cases as institutionalized group activity. So you have to go from proving that one case to proving all JWs engage the activity.

Although some news reports about Jehovah?s Witnesses are fair, at times the media let themselves be used to broadcast the biased voice of strangers.

So some news reports are fair others are biased? Hmm..... Wow glad they let us know.

In another one, a report accused Witnesses of vandalizing churches. In several countries the media accused Witnesses of refusing to give medical treatment to their children and also of deliberately condoning serious sins committed by fellow believers. (Matthew 10:22) Even so, sincere people who know us personally recognize that such accusations are false.

Note they did not say the claims are false they say "sincere people" think they are false. THis writing is really half A*ed

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WTS hypocrisy? What exactly do you mean?

by Pole in

from what i've noticed so far, an awful lot of posts on this board deal with watchtower hypocrisy which has been manifest both in their doctrines and in their double-dealing with many issues.. a few all-time classics would include:.

1) secret association with the un.

2) 1975 / generation 1914 doctrine changes.

XQsThaiPoes

Nope it is also a real estate, holdings, and event cordination company.