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  Before You Bequeath Your Property To "The Society"..

  by Englishman in

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  ..be aware that it could be auctioned to the highest bidder.. the pic is of the house that the assistant local po lived at until his death some weeks ago.

  like many witnesses, he decided to name the watchtower society as the sole beneficiary of his will.

  astonishingly, the house has been put up for auction instead of being put on the market via an estate agency.. this means of disposal ensures a quick sale to a cash buyer with a minimum of delay.

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  Amazing1914

  Hi Mike,

  Well ... it all depends ... here in the USA, that is. I designed the auction program in our office, which I named the Sealed Bid Sale. During good market conditions, houses can sell for over asking price. In order to create a bidding war, you can use an "auction" atmosphere ... people are initially getting a good deal at the opening bid, but that deal can erode as competing buyers decide to bid.

  In a Sealed Bid Sale, used more often in commercial real estate (which is what I do) the seller sets a "reserve" wherein they do not have to accept a bid lower than a certain amount. So, for example the Society could have an opening bid of £170,000, with a "reserve" of say £200,000. They, then can refuse to even look at a bid under £170,000, and reject any bid under £200,000 ... but must accept any bid over £200,000.

  In California, especially the Bay Area around San Francisco, it is not uncommon during excellent market conditions, to see homes sell for $20,000 to $40,000 over asking price ... and that happens without any auction. We have had that happen here some in the Chicago area. Given I was originally from California we decided to try auctions here ...

  So, the Society could be trying to do one of two things ... sell off quickly to get cash before property taxes are due (assuming the UK taxes property) and avoid other holding costs ... and/or realize a greater profit by creating a bidding war.

  If they had any gumption, they would listed it with a JW Realtor, and let him/her make some money. They should also do as you suggest, and share the funds with the local JWs, or with the more needy ... you know, some good old fashioned charity ... after all, the Society worked very hard to be registered as a charity in the UK ... over and above objections coming from ex-JWs across the pond.
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  Rights of Plant life - Now!

  by Amazing1914 in

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  its time we stop persecuting plant, by george!

  plants have feelings too, only unlike dogs and cats, they cannot even growl, moan or whimper!

  why for that matter, a poor helpless little plant can't even run away in fear ... they are forced to stand there as wicked humans - probably capitalists - pluck them up from their roots just to eat them - yuck!

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  Amazing1914

  Mary,

  It was a snake that seduced Eve ... and what did that evil Republican snake get Eve to do? He got her to eat a poor little plant ... and God killed Adam and Eve (took away everlasting life) for eating a plant ... the fruit of the plant, its pride and joy ... so there is now PROOF that plants have EQUAL rights!!!
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  Offered a tract for the first time.

  by scotsman in

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  yesterday, as i was standing at the bus stop i got offered a jw tract by an older witness woman.

  the tract was the dark one with a figure backlight by - the earth?

  - think it was called will mankind survive?

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  Amazing1914

  I recall when being a JW, handing out exciting tracts just before 1975 was really fun ... a different era ... a different religion in some ways ... and now, its sad to see how worn out and sickening their non-message is ... the sadness is really pity for the deceived people who would be doing much better in life were they not JWs.
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  the "annointed" witnesses

  by dustyb in

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  i just realized that the annointed won't die off.

  i mean, the original annointed will die off within the next 10 years or so, but then there are the younger people that think they are annointed, but don't fall under the rules and guidelines of an annointed person (per jw).

  i personally don't believe in the annointed, but something struck my fancy at the memorial.

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  Plmkrzy,

  Or will they discover that there was just enough fallen anointed ones to open up space for the new bros in charge?

  Bingo! While the current GB scares the beejeebers out of the rank & file JWs from partaking, the leaders can suddenly get the 'spirit' and because they are serving in a high faithful station at Bethel, they are not looked down on by the current GB ... and before they know it, a whole new Governing Body is there, fully 'anointed' and being spirit-directed' for the next generation of JWs. And, when ex-JWs read the Jan. 1952 Watchtower, Q from Readers, they learn the secret that enables this process to continue on forever! You got it!!! -
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  Rights of Plant life - Now!

  by Amazing1914 in

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  its time we stop persecuting plant, by george!

  plants have feelings too, only unlike dogs and cats, they cannot even growl, moan or whimper!

  why for that matter, a poor helpless little plant can't even run away in fear ... they are forced to stand there as wicked humans - probably capitalists - pluck them up from their roots just to eat them - yuck!

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  Amazing1914

  Hey, if animals have equal rights, why not plants? Where do we draw the line?
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  Rights of Plant life - Now!

  by Amazing1914 in

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  its time we stop persecuting plant, by george!

  plants have feelings too, only unlike dogs and cats, they cannot even growl, moan or whimper!

  why for that matter, a poor helpless little plant can't even run away in fear ... they are forced to stand there as wicked humans - probably capitalists - pluck them up from their roots just to eat them - yuck!

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  Its time we stop persecuting plant, by George! Plants have feelings too, only unlike dogs and cats, they cannot even growl, moan or whimper! Why for that matter, a poor helpless little plant can't even run away in fear ... they are forced to stand there as wicked humans - probably capitalists - pluck them up from their roots just to eat them - YUCK!

  How dare those evil - Republican - humans that do such a mean thing to little innocent plants! Don't they understand that plants have rights too? Why should plants have less rights than a human, simply because they do not have the same level of intelligence? On what moral ground do humans have the right to eat poor little helpless plants that cannot even speak for themselves? SO ... the next time you eat a plant, just remember that you are eating someone's mother or father or brother or sister in the plant world, and I hope you get sick and vomit your brains out.

  Brought to you by the People for the Ethical Treatment of Plants PETOP!
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  question: why are humans worth more than animals?

  by Realist in

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  ok putting religious reasoning aside what is a rational reason why humans are viewed worth more than higher animals?

  why is a human worth more than lets say a chimp, a pig or a cow?.

  neurophysiological studies show that animals suffer probably just as much as humans....but similar to little children they cannot understand the pain and express it as human adults can.

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  Amazing1914

  Because we humans eat animals. We are the fittest in the evolutionary chain ... for what we don't have in strength, we make up many times over in brains. If people want equality with animals, then they should go live with them. As for me, I want animals to be subordinate until they evolve some brains. I believe its proper to protect animals with good laws against cruelty ... but in the end, I still want my fried chicken and beef steak.
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  Oslo hypothesis vs. Jonsson hypothesis

  by scholar in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it has been announced that two forthcoming volumes examing the secular and biblical ecidence for bible chronology are due for publication in the spring, 2003. rolf furuli a semitic language scholar provides a new approach to the many problems associated with current chronology.

  it should be interesting to see how this book will be reviewed in the scholarly literature and compare this material with jonsson's gentile times reconsidered.

  to date i am unaware of any scholarly review of the jonsson hypothesis.

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  Amazing1914

  What Scholar needs to do is read Gentile Times Reconsidered, and then give us all a "peer" review. Show us any defects or problems with Jonnsons work. A feat I doubt he will step up to, because that would involve some real work ... from a real scholar ... which I doubt he/she is.
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  the "annointed" witnesses

  by dustyb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just realized that the annointed won't die off.

  i mean, the original annointed will die off within the next 10 years or so, but then there are the younger people that think they are annointed, but don't fall under the rules and guidelines of an annointed person (per jw).

  i personally don't believe in the annointed, but something struck my fancy at the memorial.

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  Amazing1914

  Dusty,

  The article is a Question from Readers, I just can't recall at the moment if it was the 1st or 15th. But, some who read it fail to grasp the "secret" that makes it so easy to partake once a person understands the game ... and it is a game.

  I was also surprised to find so many ex-JWs to fail to see the "secret" and then to accuse me of being a fake "anointed' because I was not seriously old ... they failed to see that they were still a victim of Watchtower mind propaganda which teaches that younger newer 'anointed' are nut cases.

  For that matter, all JW 'anointed' are fake 'anointed' because there is no such thing in Christian theology as defined by Watchtower teaching. In the Christian faith 'anointing' is a minor feature for ALL Christians that helps figuratively describe one small aspect of their relationship with God and Christ ... not much different than having 'white robes' or 'crowns' or toungues of fire' of being called 'the Bride of Christ' or other types of interesting labels.

  The problem is, as always, the Watchtower Society makes a major deal out of these things, turning them into things they are not.
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  the "annointed" witnesses

  by dustyb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just realized that the annointed won't die off.

  i mean, the original annointed will die off within the next 10 years or so, but then there are the younger people that think they are annointed, but don't fall under the rules and guidelines of an annointed person (per jw).

  i personally don't believe in the annointed, but something struck my fancy at the memorial.

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  Amazing1914

  Dusty,

  Before you can be chosen, you need to learn how to spell it ... A - N - O - I - N - T - E - D ... with just one little "n" ...

  I was one of the Anointed for 20 years of my 25 years as a JW ... even while I was an Elder. I have posted a lot of material on this topic, including the big "secret" on how they "really know" ... but it is with my other screen name, which is currently unavailable. But, if you read the Jan. 1952 Watchtower, you will find an excellent article on "how they know' which tells the big secret.

  Amazing