Yes, both of us read it.
Cellist
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when you were still in the org, or when you had already left.. i read it when i was still in and it had a profound effect on me.. lets take a poll .
Yes, both of us read it.
Cellist
do you remember the talk "reject worldly fantasies, embrace kingdom realities"?
even at the time i was cringing.
now that everything has changed for the worse in the borg, i just want to laugh.
Hi Hammsterbait,
I don't remember that talk specifically, when was it given? I used to regularly cringe at things said.
Cellist
hi my name is desi.
i'm an ex-jw from the bronx.
just thought i'd intro myself to the group.. are there any other ex-jw's here from nyc?.
Welcome to the board, Desi
Cellist
guess what?
she's outspoken too.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/100181/1726447/post.ashx#1726447.
love the kitty in your avator!.
Hi Forsharry, welcome to the board.
Cellist
just a brief introduction to get me started.
i am still one of jehovah's witnesses although delicately extricating myself from this complicated situation.
i have family to be concerned about, and this still binds me to the religion like a fragile cobweb.. i wonder that the jw paranoia of harry potter was what initially piqued my interest?
Welcome, Severus, from another Harry Potter fan.
Cellist
welcome to the forum!.
enjoy the posts, and enjoy posting.
i already know what i personally think and feel about things.
Welcome, crazycate.
Cellist
well when thursday morning arrived and we were told the news that the brooklyn picketing had been cancelled, we were upset and disappointed, but we decided to go on with a plan "b".
amanda,evelyn,sybil,and i decided to ride up to walkill ny and visit the watchtower farms and also patterson.
we drove up to walkill first and i must say that the size of this complex was enormous, and reminded me so much of a prison complex, they even had their own water tower.
Gill,I agree that there's nothing wrong with beautiful buildings. If the WTS didn't condemn other religions for having expensive churchs while their people lived in poverty, then we might not object to all these expensive building projects. They're such hypocrites!
Junction Guy, way to go.
Cellist
well when thursday morning arrived and we were told the news that the brooklyn picketing had been cancelled, we were upset and disappointed, but we decided to go on with a plan "b".
amanda,evelyn,sybil,and i decided to ride up to walkill ny and visit the watchtower farms and also patterson.
we drove up to walkill first and i must say that the size of this complex was enormous, and reminded me so much of a prison complex, they even had their own water tower.
Gill, I think the opulent place you're thinking of is the Stanley Theatre. The WTS didn't build it, they just bought it. They don't have that much class.
Cellist
bad press for jws in d.c.. .
the washington post.
14 october 2005. metro section, page b 1. .
There probably is more to the story. However, it sounds exactly like the attitude I've observed in most JWs. They didn't like to be inconvenienced for long. They're remarkably unreliable in caring for the "widows and orphans". One elder we knew was great for generously giving rides to assemblies and conventions, but usually left them looking for a ride home. He considered his need to go out for dinner with his friends greater than their need to get home. And they were not welcome to go out to dinner with him and his wife.
As far as the "thank God" comment goes, that could very easily have originated with the reporter. I've personally had them put words in my mouth that were definitely not uttered by me.
All and all, a very sad story.
Cellist
is my mother really anointed or skitzso?
ive been gone a long time without much internet access.
a good thing or notdont know, but!
Plum,
Hi, sorry to hear about your mother. We've known alot of "anointed", some were sane and a few weren't. I don't know what came first, the anointing or the insanity. They were already "anointed" when we met them. One particular older lady was definitely suffering from paranoia. Her apartment had a state-of-the-art alarm system and as many locks as a fortress. Still, people were somehow breaking in to mess with her goods and spy on her. We were (for some strange reason) two of the few people she trusted. She had me sit in her apartment while she went out to try and catch whoever was breaking in. There was no way of convincing her that nobody was out to get her.
She was the opposite of your mother, she was obsessed with her health. She was constantly running to her doctor. Not that it did her any good. She didn't listen to him anymore than she listened to anyone else. We moved, and I don't know what the final outcome was. Her family was at their wits end trying to cope with her.
I'm sorry I don't have any constructive advise.
Cellist